Thoughts on 5.3.2 – Huck Drawdowns

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    • #201505

        Let us know your thoughts on 5.3.2 – Huck Drawdowns 🙂

      • #201606

          I thought (operative word here is thought) I knew a lot about weaving. What I am learning is that I have a long way to go yet. Thanks for explaining this so well. It gives me a whole lot more grist to grind over in my pea brain!!

        • #201619
          Robyn B

            Thank you so much for going over everything thru Anne’s notation.  I know it seems repetitive to you but it wasn’t until the 3rd time you said it that it clicked.  Really started to feel lost at version 5.  But talking thru and showing it with the rhythm really helped me to see what you were describing.  Thanks for your patience.   Looking forward to seeing this at the loom.

          • #201622
            Carol Burns

              very informative….sinks in a little more each time. Thank you

            • #201626

                Very informative on how different weavers came up with their version of huck. I’m using a table loom and am bit confused about the treadling because I don’t have inside and outside treadle options. I hope the next video will help understand using lift plans.

              • #201714

                  Hi Heidi

                  This is the way I approach drawdowns for table loom.

                  If I wanted to weave say block A, the tieup for block A will have the shafts listed below it, so I would manually raise/lift those shafts. Same process for block B and for tabby lifts. Lift what you need, drop what you no longer need.

                  Because we hand lift each individual shaft on a table loom, where you position the tabby treadles, or the Block treadles becomes irrelevant. On a floor loom it is important because we use our feet to raise the shafts and are able to tie up all the required shafts ie for block B to one treadle….etc….

                  Hope it helps….


                • #201715

                    So on a table loom I would make a cheat sheet listing eacl block/tabby with shaft no’s to lift and attach to my loom for quick reference.

                    I used to find lift plans/tieups confusing when weaving on a table loom. Things became clear as a bell only when I got sight of a floor loom and learned how to tieup the treadles.

                    • This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by loobitzh.
                  • #201777
                    Jeannette Frantz

                      Dear Jane

                      How can I do Huck using the Jane Table Loom.  Will you weave on the Table Loom sometime, please.

                      Thank you.

                    • #201871

                        For those using a table loom, the tie-up is still and always the “command centre”.  A table loom is a rising shed loom because of the way it is constructed.  When you activate a toggle, it lifts the shaft it is “tied” to.  Because it is rising shed you will be using the Mother of All tie-up on page 4.  So, if your A unit is threaded on shafts 1&2, and your B unit is threaded on shafts 3&4, when you activate the toggles for shafts 3&4 they  lift all the threads on shaft 3 and all the threads on shaft 4.  The weft thread passes under the threads that are lifted (on 3 and 4) and over the threads that remain down (on shafts 1 and 2).  So, you will get weft floats on A and warp floats on B.  Reverse this to get weft floats on B and warp floats on A.  The same rules apply to deciding which tabby goes with Unit A and which tabby goes with Unit B.  In order to get a weft float for A you had to lift shafts 3&4 and leave shafts 1&2 down.  If A is threaded on 1,2,1,2,1, the tabby indicator for A is 1.  For tabby, the weft has gone over the the threads on shaft 1 on the float pass, so you now have to lift shaft 1 and its partner shaft 3 to keep your tabby consistent on the tabby pass and allow the next weft thread to go under shaft 1 threads.

                        Follow the guide on page 4 for how to get Huck Lace, Huck Warp Floats, and Huck Weft Floats by following the treadling  draft.  Instead of stepping on a treadle, you just activate the toggles for the shaft numbers indicated.

                        A less complicated way of saying this just look for the gaps.  The gaps will tell you where the weft floats are.  If you activate the toggles for 3&4, you will see a five thread gap.  If the gap is where you want the weft float to be, throw the pick and you get a weft float here.  Choose the opposite tabby to go with (1&3).

                        And for warp floats, look to where you have five threads lifted in a row.  This will give you a warp float.  If this is where you want a warp float in the cloth, you have done it right.

                        Hope this helps.


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