Thoughts on 4.2 – Let’s Have a Little Chat About Sett – Setts with Wool

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      Ginette
      Keymaster

        Let us know your thoughts on 4.2 – Let’s Have a Little Chat About Sett – Setts with Wool.

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      • #157417
        fudsy1
        Participant

          another great lesson. I’m so glad I had ordered your yarns sample card sets, as a visual learner between the videos and touching feeling and looking at the sample cards as you talked about the different yarns and setts it really brought the lesson home. thanks again

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        • #157418
          Patricia Moore
          Participant

            Amazing to see the different variations on weave sett. Simply amazing and you have explained it so well. Thankyou Jane!

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          • #157419
            wbcostume8
            Participant

              Jane
              Thank you for this very clear explanation about how setts work with images of you wrapping the ruler for both cotton and wool and lots of wonderful finished fabric to compare.
              Wendy Melbourne

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            • #157420
              virginiaintexas
              Participant

                Thank you, thank you! I’ve been shown how to wrap a ruler, but not with all the knowledge I needed to know. The examples are WONDERFUL! Now I’m confident I’ll be able to wing my own sett a lot better! Love it and you!

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              • #157421
                yezemin
                Participant

                  Now I get why leaving space while wrapping is so much better for finding the right sett. This was eye opening! Thank you so much!

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                • #157422
                  Jeanine Juliana
                  Participant

                    Hello,
                    Please explain what the yarn numbers mean. 2/8 cotton, 4/8 cotton, 220 or 230 silk, etc.
                    Thank you.

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                  • #157425
                    Danielle Soucie
                    Participant

                      How much material would be needed to make a double wide blanket such as the one in the video?

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                      • #157426
                        Ginette
                        Keymaster

                          Hi Danielle, Jane’s blankets are 45″ wide in the reed so you would need to double this for a double wide blanket. Hope this helps to do your calculations with the yarns you have.

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                      • #157428
                        Danielle Soucie
                        Participant

                          I am curious…
                          Is there a “formula” for sett when the warp and the weft are different sizes? I have a sock weight wool warp and then homespun silk and merino which I would like to use for the weft. They are much thicker and cozier than the sock weight warp. I was hoping to do a basic weave shawl.

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                          • #157429
                            Sandra
                            Keymaster

                              Sorry, there isn’t a formula – especially when you bring handspun into the mix. The best way to check the sett for unique yarns like yours, is to use the ruler wrap that Jane demonstrates in the above video. Make the warp a bit longer and try different setts with your handspun weft, to get something you are happy with after your samples are washed. Have fun!

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                              • #157430
                                Danielle Soucie
                                Participant

                                  Okay, thanks for the advice and for always being so prompt to answer!

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                              Rosanna Lovecchio
                              Participant

                                When you say you are sampling, do you weave the structure you want, cut it off the loom, finish it and the re thread/sly and continue weaving?

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                                  Ginette
                                  Keymaster

                                    Hi Rosanna,

                                    If you’re trying to find the right sett for the fabric you’re wanting, it would be best to weave one sample, cut it off the loom and wash it to see how it turns out. Then you can re thread the reed to try another sett. If you plan on keeping the same sett throughout the samples and play with weft yarns instead, you can weave your samples on the loom until the end. I’m actually just putting on a warp to determine the best sett where my warp has an extra yard and a half to sample first with, enough for 3 samples if needed so I’ll be cutting/resleying a few times.  I’m hoping to nail it on the first sample though and weave the rest for the 2 scarves that I plan on finishing with.

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                                  Rosanna Lovecchio
                                  Participant

                                    Thank you very much for your response.  on the average, what is a good size for a sample piece?

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                                    • #159678
                                      Ginette
                                      Keymaster

                                        I like to make mine 10 to 12 inches wide and weave at least 12 inches. That usually gives me a good indication on the drape and the hand.

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                                      Kimberley Daniel
                                      Participant

                                        When you were showing the 30/2 silk and cashmere 2nd scarf (woven on the same warp as the 30/2 all silk scarf at 30 epi/30 epi) you said you went down to 27 epi on your 10 dent reed. So, you needed to resley the reed from 3 ends per dent to 2-3-3. Did you just pull out 1 thread every 3rd dent? What would you do with the pulled out threads? Cut them out? Leave them hang off the back?

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                                        • #173619
                                          Sandra
                                          Keymaster

                                            You resley and get a wider scarf, Kimberley!  You’ll find out more about the magic of resleying in Season 2.  Wonderful things can happen when you change your sett, open up your cloth and/or weave with a different weft.

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                                          Sharon
                                          Participant

                                            When Jane wraps the ruler for twill she does 2 space, 2 space, etc. Is that for just a 2/2 twill. What if it’s a 1/3 twill. Is the set the same?

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                                            Candy Degel
                                            Participant

                                              I am not completely sure how to ask this, but I will try to make sense.

                                              I have cashmere/silk blend yarn cobweb weight.  Actually, it is thread weight at 16 yards per gram, but it lists as cobweb.

                                              Anyways, I want to do an advancing twill with long sequence repeat treadling with it.  I want to control the bloom and take advantage of the silk nature of the yarn.  I ‘thought’ 45 sett would work but now I am worried and thinking that something closer to 36 might be better.  I don’t want bulletproof cloth but I don’t want the cloth to ‘melt’ either.  There is no chart that I can find sett info on for this yarn.  It knits Orenburg lace on size 2/0 (1.75mm) or 3/0 (1.5mm) needles, if that helps.

                                              Thoughts?

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                                              • #190030
                                                Sandra
                                                Keymaster

                                                  Have you watched Jane’s lesson on wrapping your yarn around a ruler to get the sett for your special yarn?  Often that is the only way you can get an idea of the sett when planning a project with a knitting yarn.  If it’s normally knitted on needles that small, you need to do the ruler wrap.  You should also make your warp is long enough to weave a sample and finish it, so you can test your sett before you start weaving your project.

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                                                Candy Degel
                                                Participant

                                                  Thank you.  I did see that video, I am just not sure with thread that fine I can get a space between each 2 as I wrap.  I will see what I come up with.

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                                                • #192908
                                                  Cynthia Standley
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                                                    Great video.  Is it so, that technically, one should start the sett count over at every inch if it is not an even distribution of the numbers?  For instance 2,3,3, for 27 ends per inch would end with 2,3,3,2,1 for an exact inch.  Do you sley the next sett by starting over after the 1 with 2,3,3 again, or just continue at 2,3,3 after the last 3? Hope that makes sense.

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                                                    • #192915
                                                      Sandra
                                                      Keymaster

                                                        Good morning, Cynthia.  You sley your reed – with your example – 2-3-3 over and over again until you run out of warp ends to sley.  It doesn’t matter whether you have 2 or 3 threads in your last dent – or even 1, the important thing is to sley 2-3-3 across your 10 dent reed.  If you were sleying an 8 dent reed – you would be sleying 3-3-4 to get your 27 epi.  All you are doing is spreading your warp as evenly as possible across your loom to get your sett to be as close as you can to 27 ends per inch in your cloth.

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                                                      Maxine Mar
                                                      Participant

                                                        My question is regarding kitchen towels. I have woven towels with 4/8 cotton at 10 EPI. The towels are great, but not absorbent. Would increasing the sett to 12 help significantly?
                                                        Thanks

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                                                        • #193212
                                                          Sandra
                                                          Keymaster

                                                            Have you checked Jane’s Master Sett Chart, Maxine?  You haven’t said what your structure is – remember that makes a difference with your choice of sett.

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                                                        • #197489

                                                          I am a brand new weaver.  When you do sampling, do you do it on a seperate loom, possibly a table loom or do you do it as part of your project by allowing additional warp??  If using project warp, do you cut it off and wet finish immediately to see how it finishes??

                                                           

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                                                          • #197504
                                                            Sandra
                                                            Keymaster

                                                              Welcome aboard, Elizabeth!  You’ll find – when you get into Season 2 – that Jane suggests a warp length with each sample she has planned for us to weave.  They are always longer than the sample she would like us to weave to have in our sample library that we add to as we weave our way through the seasons.  She usually suggests ideas of how you can practice your new skill as you weave through the warp.  Also, as time goes on, you will find your warp too short for the ideas popping into your brain!  You certainly can cut off your sample and finish it.  Then you have it beside you as you weave off that warp.  You’ll soon learn that Jane never says “this is the way you have to do it” – she says “there is no right way or wrong way, just whatever works for you.”

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