Thoughts on 3.8.2 – Weaving Your Supplementary Warp Sample

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    • #155925
      Ginette
      Keymaster

        Let us know your thoughts on 3.8.2 – Weaving Your Supplementary Warp Sample.

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      • #155926
        Fran
        Participant

          Well, I’ve got but four treadles, and I know what they do, and I think that’s a whole lot easier to work with.

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        • #155927
          Jane Sullivan
          Participant

            Hi Jane, I have a few questions to ask you. At one point, you mentioned that you wove the sample on a counter balance loom. Is the tie-up on the pdf for a counter balance loom or a jack loom? (I have just acquired a counter balance loom after weaving primarily on a jack loom) Will the tie-up be the same on both types of looms?
            How do you accommodate a loom with 6 treadles instead of 8 to weave the sample? Is it as simple as changing the tie-up of the supplementary warp?
            Thank you for helping me to be a much better and more efficient weaver!

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            • #155928
              Ginette
              Keymaster

                Hi Jane,
                At the following mark in the episode 3.8.1, Jane talks about counterbalance looms tie-up (btw, the updated Index is up which includes this episode)
                -tie-up, 3.8.1, 30:38
                -counterbalance looms, 3.8.1, 39:51
                The pattern is for a rising shed loom so yes, it’s a for jack loom. You would just tie up the empty boxes on the tie-up instead of those that are marked.
                For only having 6 treadles, you could pick the Supps Up and Down and Plain Weave treadles and weave for a bit and then you would need to change the treadle tie up to use the As and Bs treadles.
                Hope this helps!

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            • #155929
              Maureen Janda
              Participant

                I have not been able to get a clean shed. The supplemental threads are twisted around the basic warp threads and held down in the middle of the shed. I am using 8/2 cotton for the lesson at 16 epi for the center and 18 epi for the fuchsia frame in a 12 dent reed. The center area is slayed 1-1-2 etc, then the two supplemental threads are inserted in the last two slots over the standard warp threads as follows:
                S S
                2-1-1-2-1-1-2-1-1-2-1-1
                I’ve tried everything I can think of – rethreading, resleying re-everything, and I’m stumped.

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              • #155930
                Maureen Janda
                Participant

                  Next day: I’ve been playing the video over and over, and I hear Jane saying at 5:30 -ish in the video,
                  “I put them in their own individual heddle” and then “If they’re in their own heddle then nothing ever gets
                  twisty on me.”
                  “Heddle” is singular in both statements. Are each two supplemental threads supposed to be threaded through the SAME heddle and then when sleying from there into the two dents that precede them???

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                • #155931
                  Maureen Janda
                  Participant

                    Nope, the last brainwave is wrong. Still have a supplementary twisted around a cayenne thread in the middle of the shed.
                    What am I missing?

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                    • #155932
                      Ginette
                      Keymaster

                        Hi Maureen, silly question here but can you check to make sure that supp thread is in the correct heddle? Also, is it just one thread doing this? If it is, is there anything at the back of the loom refraining the thread from moving up and down? I sometimes have a bobbin on top of my castle and the thread hanging, twisting threads in the back.

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                        • #155933
                          Maureen Janda
                          Participant

                            It was just careless sleying that caused twists around the supp threads. What made it hard to figure out, for me, is that every one of the supp threads was caught and down in the middle of the shed, so it seemed like I must have threaded the supps wrong. I ended up putting the first supp of each pair in with the threads of the previous dent and the second supp in with the threads of the next dent. Not sure if that,s correct.

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                            • #155934
                              Ginette
                              Keymaster

                                Hi Maureen, that sounds correct. Glad you found what was causing that thread to get caught!

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                        • #159521
                          dianeg537
                          Participant

                            Hi,

                            I’m about 12 minutes into 3.8.2 where Jane is going back and forth between the ** treadles and the — treadles.  Is she stepping on 2 treadles at once, ie treadle 3 then 4 or both 3 and 4 together to get **, then the same for treadle 5 and 5. Thanks

                            Diane

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                          • #159522
                            dianeg537
                            Participant

                              Diane again,

                              I was actually about 20 minutes into the video when Jane was going back and forth between stars and squares.  I think I know realize there are 2 pics for each set of stars and squares.  Hope that’s correct?

                              Thanks for your patience.

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                              • #159558
                                Ginette
                                Keymaster

                                  Hi Diane,

                                  Yes you’ve got it, Jane mentions that she’s alternating between the 2 colours, so one colour is 2 picks of stars, the other colour is 2 picks of squares. On the PDF link just under the video,  Simple Supplementary Warp – Draft & Pictures of Sample PDF it will be #12 picture.

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