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September 4, 2019 at 2:31 pm #155903
Let us know your thoughts on 3.8.1 – Introduction to Supplementary Warps.
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September 5, 2019 at 9:42 am #155904
The sheet that Jane Stafford is holding is not the same as in the PDF. The sheet she holds has 3 divisions whereas the PDF only has 2 divisions that do not look to be the same. What is correct?
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September 5, 2019 at 9:56 am #155905
Hi there, the PDF for download for the lesson is correct, thanks for checking though! There were changes done to the draft to accommodate the sample for this lesson that she is weaving in the 3.8.2 video.
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September 5, 2019 at 10:05 am #155906
Thanks for checking.
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September 5, 2019 at 12:20 pm #155907
Are the 3 and 4 supplemental threads sleyed along with a 1 or 2 or are they sleyed separately?
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September 5, 2019 at 1:30 pm #155909
They are sleyed in with the ground. There is a section in the PDF that shows you the sleying 🙂
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September 13, 2019 at 2:18 pm #155917
For some reason, I got two background threads between the two light green warp threads. And it looks funny. I thought according to the pdf that the two light green warp threads should be next to each other in the fabric. I double checked the threading and the denting and they are correct. I can take a picture if needed. I have taken my sample off and need to rethread and/or re-sley before weaving again.
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September 5, 2019 at 12:24 pm #155908
Thanks so much for sending this great episode out today. We (in NC) are under a hurricane watch and this is a great program to be watching as the rain is pouring down and the wind is blowing hard outside. Once again thanks.
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September 5, 2019 at 1:31 pm #155910
Stay safe Marcella 🙂 Our thoughts are with you.
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September 6, 2019 at 3:14 am #155911
In the video on the right is a beautiful crammed denting! What is the warp? Is appears not to exist. Thank you!
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September 6, 2019 at 7:51 am #155912
Hi Nancy, are you referring to fabric hanging on the wall?
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September 7, 2019 at 11:48 am #155913
In the video it is way to the right of the blackboard. In some of the video you can see it swaying. It has bright colors in it. Definitely cram and denting. It appears no have no warp, but of course it does. Thank you!
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September 8, 2019 at 9:39 am #155916
Hi Nancy, in the JST Blog, Jane talks about the scarves on the wall and that one in perticular. Here’s the link https://janestaffordtextiles.com/blog/handweaving-in-india-part-2-oh-the-fabrics/
Enjoy!
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September 7, 2019 at 12:16 pm #155914
I can’t find 16/2 raspberry here in the U.S. – what color is close to it? There is Cerise, Scarlet, and Garnet available
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September 7, 2019 at 12:19 pm #155915
I went with brassard magenta since it was a better match
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September 14, 2019 at 12:43 pm #155918
Jane, this is so fun, and I’m excited to try it. But I’m curious why you chose to do the border in weft faced? Won’t that make the edges stiff or less drapey? Thx!
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September 15, 2019 at 7:53 am #155919
For some reason, I got two background threads between the two light green warp threads. And it looks funny. I thought according to the pdf that the two light green warp threads should be next to each other in the fabric. I double checked the threading and the denting and they are correct. I can take a picture if needed. I have taken my sample off and need to rethread and/or re-sley before weaving again
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September 18, 2019 at 5:13 pm #155920
I’m hoping it will all come clear in the next section or when I actually do it, because I feel lost!
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September 19, 2019 at 8:02 am #155921
Emma – I think it’s one of those things that we actually have to weave, for us to have a eureka moment! I’m looking forward to “playing” with it when I have an empty loom – the possibilities are exciting 😉
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December 26, 2019 at 12:39 pm #155922
I would have liked to have been shown detail of the sample when explaining the tie-up and what each combination produces. I think that would have helped understand. So I guess I should have printed the PDF to look at while watching! (printer not working.)
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February 2, 2020 at 7:28 pm #155923
About to jump in to supplemental warp weaving; may I assume that your explanation for the CounterBalance tie up is the same alternative as for my CounterMarche? I simply reverse the placement for each treadle so that your empty boxes are the boxes I use for my cords? (or else my pattern will be upside down !!).
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July 27, 2020 at 3:52 pm #174287
Love, love, love, love, love… this project. It was SO much fun to weave. Took me 2 days to figure out the warp colors. Doh. Nothing seemed like it would work… then this happened! 🙂
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July 27, 2020 at 5:28 pm #174294
Beautiful, Elysa!
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August 9, 2020 at 9:21 am #175275
Is Jane sing unmercerized cotton in this project, or mercerized? How did she decide between these?
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August 9, 2020 at 10:22 am #175280
Hi Susan – Jane weaves with the yarn she carries in her shop. She doesn’t carry mercerized cotton, so the answer to your question is unmercerized 🙂
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September 30, 2020 at 9:29 am #179943
I have 12 treadles—could a second supplementary warp color be threaded on shaft 5 and 6? Just curious?
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September 30, 2020 at 4:28 pm #179982
You would have to rewrite the draft Jane, to include the extra shafts and treadles. However, if you haven’t already woven the Supplementary Warp sample, that’s where I would start before creating your own unique cloth. Pay close attention to what’s happening while you weave, so that you can put your new knowledge into creating your own design. If you have Fiberworks PCW – you could “play” in that and see what happens!
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September 30, 2020 at 7:09 pm #179986
Thanks. I am putting the warp on the loom, so will take the opportunity to learn about how it all works before I get fancy!
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November 19, 2020 at 11:42 am #184041
I’m about to try supplemental warps. I’ve worked it out in Fibreworks and it looks like there are 2 and 3 thread weft floats at each supplemental warp. Is that correct or am I missing something. The threading draft shows the two supplementals side by side.
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November 30, 2020 at 6:28 am #186233
I’m excited to try using a supplementary warp. However I only have 16/2 bamboo and not cotton. Rather than purchasing more yarn, can I use the bamboo? Will the sett be the same? Thanks
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November 30, 2020 at 7:27 am #186237
I checked my stash again and I also have 20/2 cotton. If I go with that what should I use for the sett? Thanks again
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November 30, 2020 at 8:38 am #186248
Hi Rochelle. I have just finished a supplemental warp scarf using 16/2 bamboo. Sett at 20 epi. I had to beat carefully to maintain a 20 ppi beat but it turned out beautifully. It is stable, puddles like a dream, a touch see through. Makes a great fashion scarf. I also made one out of 8/2 tencel, same sett, same ppi which is nice but is thicker and less “dreamy”. I had to fluff the tencel scarf in my dryer on cool to get a softer hand.
The attached picture is the 16/2 bamboo scarf.
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November 30, 2020 at 12:51 pm #186278
Thanks! Your scarf is beautiful & I can’t wait to get started. Seeing family, going on trips, even going to the mall is no longer an option and won’t be for many months ahead. Thank heaven I can immerse myself in learning new things and hopefully making lovely creations.
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December 13, 2020 at 4:42 pm #187857
Curious–are the warp faced borders for aesthetic reasons or for structure or for both when doing the supplemental warp?
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December 15, 2020 at 9:05 am #188021
They give the edge borders structure for the more open sett of the sample and scarf.
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December 13, 2020 at 4:54 pm #187859
Velma,
your scarf is beautiful!! congrats!!
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January 20, 2021 at 9:29 pm #193206
Did anyone else find that the warp faced borders caused the warp to tighten more. I found that I ended up having a lot of the border threads breaking
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February 10, 2021 at 6:17 pm #196391
<p style=”text-align: left;”>Hi Jane and team</p>
I can’t wait to do this sample. Can you please tell me what TT stands for at the top of the first tie up on the black board.Many thanks
Chris
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February 11, 2021 at 12:22 am #196421
Those first 2 treadles weave plain weave, so the TT stands for tabby, tabby (tabby being another word for Plain weave).
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February 11, 2021 at 6:07 am #196444
I moved the supplementary warps for the second scarf by adding in extra heddles
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February 11, 2021 at 4:08 pm #196495
Thank you sandra.
Kind regards
Chris
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February 24, 2021 at 2:25 pm #198182
A number of us have sectional warps – Jane have you found a trick to weighting the sup warp threads? We find that the rod doesn’t hang far enough away from the beam to pass over the Unails on the sectional. Although one can hang weights on a full one inch section sometimes there are many sections across the warp and sometimes the thread are crossed over the nails …in other words there are a ton of individual weights making weaving no fun. Hoping you’ve found away around this that you can share with us. thanks
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February 25, 2021 at 4:07 pm #198324
Sorry Trish, I don’t use sectional warp beams. I do understand the issue but have no experience coming up with a solution.
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February 25, 2021 at 5:10 pm #198331
Thanks for letting me/us know – I would remove the sectional but….it’s there and it has the 1 yard extension which is nice 🙂 If I had carpentry skills I’d just make a 1 yard extension …but I don’t 🙂 happy weaving!
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April 27, 2021 at 11:23 am #211226
The PDF indicates “Width in Reed” as 11 1/2 inches. Correct me if am wrong…should it read 12 1/2 inches? Thanks much for this great project.
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April 28, 2021 at 3:53 am #211275
Sorry. My silly novice question… It occurred to me…the silk warps ride on a layer of cotton. The silk warp shares dents with the cotton as per the diagram and explains a narrower width.
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