Thoughts on 3.7.1 – Designing a Double Width Project

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    • #155947
      Ginette
      Keymaster

        Let us know your thoughts on 3.7.1 – Designing a Double Width Project.

      • #155948
        Jacquelyn Partain
        Participant

          I have done several plain weave and twill double width blankets using my 8 shaft schacht loom and really want to do a waffle weave but need to check out my understanding of the structure with you first. Waffle weave takes 4 shafts so do i use shafts 1+5, 2+6, 3+7, and 4+8 as pattern pairs when i am threading, with 1-4 being the top layer and 5-8 being the bottom layer?
          After that i am a bit lost with the tie up., but think i tie up for the first 2 picks of the top layer in pattern, then 2 picks of the bottom, then the next two picks for the top layer finishing with the last 2 for the bottom in walking order.
          If you are willing to clarify this for me i would be most grateful. I know this is beyond where this lesson is at the moment, but it is where i am and would love to try it. Thank you.

        • #164580
          Jenni Gormley
          Participant

            Can you use a 12 dpi reed for this project?

            • #164594
              Sandra
              Keymaster

                Yes, you can!  Sley 1-1-2.  Have fun.

            • #164917
              Suzanne
              Participant

                Is a David loom tied up the same as the counterbalance?

              • #174268
                Lise
                Participant

                  Did Suzanne get an answer to her question regarding her counterbalance loom? I have the same question.

                  • #174445
                    Ginette
                    Keymaster

                      Hi Lise,

                      Rising shed looms are the Jack loom and sinking shed looms are your counterbalance looms and David looms.

                  • #175462
                    Karen
                    Participant

                      I wanted to take this time to thank Jane for doing these Lessons I have learn so much. I went back to finish some of the lessons I missed to finish. Sadly to say I should of done sampling be for I started this project. I’m not much for Harrisville wool to me it is itchy so I tried brown sheep sport weight because it was softer. It would be great for a blanket. My Shaw was to heavy and not much drap will try different settings and see how it will turn out. Also have found so Harrisville yarn to try.  Also had a Senior moment and tuck the ends on the wrong side was fixable took some time. Here are rhe picture of the Shaw and I made a pillow out of the tube.45517F56-B95B-4BFC-872A-577B834203EA21349D46-CAEF-4DFC-BF28-D0E39B5E8F5A3A2733DE-C305-4651-BEC8-889529E06F13

                    • #177939
                      Margaret Davidson
                      Participant

                        I am designing and planning to double-weave a wide shawl with 18/2 wool silk.

                        I am getting confused trying to figure out sett and the number of yarn threads I will need. If I weave plain weave at 20 EPI, does that mean that I should be threading four threads through each of my dents on my 10-dent reed so that I have 20 EPI on the top layer and 20 EPI on the bottom?

                        If so, I’m afraid I won’t be able to achieve a clean shed. (The wool is very sticky.) Am I figuring this out correctly? If so, how do I achieve a consistently clean shed opening? Thank you.

                        • #177974
                          Sandra
                          Keymaster

                            Have you thought of opening it up to 16 epi?  Jane recommends between 16 -20 epi for Zephyr Wool/Silk in her Master Sett Chart.  IMHO – a more open sett might give you a beautiful shawl with wonderful draper.  Also, do you have any other reeds you could use, for instance an 8 dent reed?  You would still have 4 threads in each dent (you understood it correctly), but the dents are slightly larger give more room for the yarns to slide by each other when you change the shed.  You can check out any reeds you have on the Reed Substitution Chart. Hope this helps.

                        • #178431
                          Margaret Davidson
                          Participant

                            Sandra,

                            Thank you!

                            I will try both decreasing the EPI and using an 8-dent reed. I will post when I’m one, hopefully with photos, to show how it came out. Give me a few months — I’m a s-l-o-w weaver!

                            Margaret

                          • #179683
                            Karen
                            Participant

                              I would like to weave the sample for the Double Weave , however the sample kits are out of stock.  Can you please suggest other color groups or colorways that would work well?  I want to work with the Harrisville Shetland Wool since I have never used it before.  Your direct access to the wool colors will work better than me guessing on my computer screen.  I was thinking  maybe reds-purple-blues but I am open to any suggestions.  Thank you in advance, Karen

                            • #190471
                              Lee
                              Participant

                                I have a 6 dent and a 12 dent reed. According to the Reed Substitution Chart if I use the 6 dent I sley 1-1-2. And with the 12 dent 0-1-1.  Which is best when using Harrisville Shetland for this project. (Which one is easier 😉)?

                                Thanks for the advice.

                                • #190473
                                  Ginette
                                  Keymaster

                                    Hi Lee,

                                    I personally would go with the 6 dent reed for Harrisville Shetland. The yarn is a tad thicker and will work better in a more open reed.

                                • #192983
                                  Lee
                                  Participant

                                    Advice please! I have a 6 dent Reed. The pattern calls for an 8 dent Reed sleyed 2 per dent. So…do I use the Reed substitution chart under 6 column and go to 16 epi?  2-3-3?

                                    I tried sleying 1-1-2 as per the chart to substitute 6 for 8 dent but the warp was spread too far apart.  Then I tried 2 per dent and still too wide.

                                    Thanks for your help!

                                    Lee

                                    • #192987
                                      Ginette
                                      Keymaster

                                        Hi Lee,

                                        Yes, if you are wanting 16 EPI and using the 6 dent reed, sley it 2-3-3. That will keep your warp threads at 16 EPI.

                                    • #193796
                                      Ellen Black
                                      Participant

                                        Hi. I looked at the master setting chart and Harrisville Highland is not on there. What do you set Highland at please?

                                      • #193805
                                        Sandra
                                        Keymaster

                                          Good morning Ellen – JST doesn’t carry Harrisville Highland – that’s why it’s not there.  The best you can do to find the sett is to do your ruler wrap.  My guess is that it would be close to the Quebecoise that Jane carries and uses for the Weft Faced sample in Episode 4 of Season 3.

                                           

                                        • #193918
                                          Ellen Black
                                          Participant

                                            Ok. I have Lots of Quebecoise from Jane  Thanks.

                                          • #200584
                                            Erika S-F
                                            Participant

                                              Until I watched this video, I thought double width was beyond me.

                                              I now understand not only what to do, but why I’m doing it!

                                               

                                            • #201134
                                              Jane Sullivan
                                              Participant

                                                Hi,

                                                I am finally trying my hand at double weave.  I am a bit worried because I only have  10 dent and a 13 dent reeds.  I can get the epi with the 10 dent one. I am threading it 1,2,2 to get 16 ends per inch.  Do you have any thoughts on how this will affect the project?

                                                Thanks,

                                                Jane Sullivan

                                                jchenuau@yahoo.com

                                                • #201177
                                                  Sandra
                                                  Keymaster

                                                    You’ll be fine, Jane.  You won’t even notice the difference once you have fulled your blanket.  Have fun!

                                                • #201674
                                                  Sheryl Smith
                                                  Participant

                                                    I have a question about threading the reed.  I have an 8 dent reed and set up my warp front to back.  I know the sett is 8 EPI at 16 inches wide on the loom.  When sleying the reed though I need to put two ends in each dent to make top and bottom layer right?

                                                    • #201678
                                                      Sandra
                                                      Keymaster

                                                        You’ve got it, Sheryl.  Just to confirm in your own head – check the column on the left side of first page of the print out and the outline needed for your project is there.  Have fun!

                                                    • #211180
                                                      Andrea Van Kleef
                                                      Participant

                                                        Hi loved this episode. I have a quick question is a louet Erica a counter balance or sinking shed ?  Many thanks

                                                        • #211182
                                                          Sandra
                                                          Keymaster

                                                            The Louet Erica is a rising shed, your shafts go up when you use your toggles raise your shafts as you weave.

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