Thoughts on 3.4.2 – Weft Faced, Plain Weave Sequences at the Loom

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    • #156082
      Ginette
      Keymaster

        Let us know your thoughts on 3.4.2 – Weft Faced, Plain Weave Sequences at the Loom.

      • #156083
        akhdoyle
        Participant

          What are some of the other warp and weft yarn combinations that could be used in weft faced weaving, say for example, to make placemats?

          • #156084
            Sandra
            Keymaster

              You could use almost anything that is washable! At least around my house, that’s important 😉 If you have a good supply of 8/2 cotton, why don’t you try some in a sample, allowing an open enough sett to allow your weft to “pack” in.

              • #156085
                Janice Griffiths
                Participant

                  Hi Sandra – I have done this – used 8/2 cotton to weave a weft dominant fabric; but it was a bookmark. Making place mats this way would take a looooong time. I like warp dominant weaves for placemats. Weft dominant is good for Christmas cards, table runners, wall hangings and of course rugs. Janice Griffiths

                  • #156086
                    Sandra
                    Keymaster

                      You are right, Janice – using a 8/4 or 8/8 cotton, for instance, would certainly be a lot faster for placemats! Thank you for your input from a very productive, fast weaver’s viewpoint

              • #156087
                Emma Hamilton
                Participant

                  Which lesson explains the weighted floating selveges please?

                  • #156088
                    Ginette
                    Keymaster

                      Hi Emma, not sure if this is the one you’re talking about Season 1, Episode 5.4 – Adding Floating Selvedge

                      • #156090
                        Emma Hamilton
                        Participant

                          Thank you! Jane mentions her weighted floating selvedges being in place in the above video, I knew the full instructions must be somewhere 🙂

                    • #156089
                      Emma Hamilton
                      Participant

                        Another question, if I’m allowed two… (two-part question!) a) is there a trick to getting really tight hemstitching? (I tried but mine is slipping down,) b) once I know the trick should I undo and re-do the hemstitching that’s too loose, or is there another remedy?

                        • #156091
                          Ginette
                          Keymaster

                            Hi Emma, are you able to tug on it as you hemstitch? I would try and tug on both parts of each hemstitch process and see if that helps.

                          • #156092
                            Emma Hamilton
                            Participant

                              Answering my own question but there might be other ways… In the video when Jane tightens up the hem stitches, they stay tightened up. I’m guessing it’s just a property of the yarn she uses vs what I was using, as mine didn’t stay tight. The “knots” loosened off as soon as I let go. SO what I did was undo the original sloppy hemstitching and re-do holding the yarn tight so the previous stitch is held firmly until I’ve done the next, and so on across the width. I had done several picks of plain weave with the same yarn, not just two, so I was able to pull enough of that out at the bottom to use for re- hem stitching.

                          • #156093
                            Emma Hamilton
                            Participant

                              I found that if I measured, say, an inch, when I went on weaving some more that “inch” would continue to squish down and become much smaller. I’m not using the same yarn as the project recommends, I’m using handspun, but is that usual?

                              • #156094
                                Sandra
                                Keymaster

                                  Hi Emma, every yarn is different – and your handspun is probably quite different from the commercially produced yarn that Jane uses in the sample. You’ll be fine if it squishes down because you are looking for a weft faced fabric, not a balanced cloth.

                              • #156095
                                joan horwich
                                Participant

                                  Hi. I have found an alternative to the wool weft. This is Berroco Remix found at a local knitting shop. It is made of 100% recycled fibers including nylon, cotton, and acrylic. This works well with the 8/4 linen warp. It covers beautifully with the linen sett at 5 EPI. However, I don’t think that it will have the longevity of wool – especially if used for a rug.
                                  joan

                                • #161269
                                  Jan
                                  Participant

                                    I’m watching Session 3 Episode $ Weft Faced Weaving.  In less than a minute, the video stops and loads and loads.  This makes it hard to have any continuity for learning.?????

                                    • #161276
                                      Ginette
                                      Keymaster

                                        Hi Jan, sorry you’re having issues viewing the episodes. Could I get you to try the following on the Forum’s Housekeeping thread and see if it improves?

                                        https://janestaffordtextiles.com/forums/topic/jst-forum-housekeeping-faqs/

                                        If you could start with the one down the page that says

                                        The video playback is choppy or interrupted

                                        then if that doesn’t work try the next 2 suggestions below it.

                                        Let us know how you make out

                                    • #161293
                                      Jan
                                      Participant

                                        Hi Ginette,

                                        Thanks for your response. When I tried to follow the info on the forum, I discovered that on the Mac, at the bottom right of the video there is an icon that looks like a gear.  Clicking on that lets you set the speed and the quality.  I changed the quality to 360, and during the first three minutes of the video it stopped to load at least 6 times.  Totally unacceptable.  I didn’t explore trying to change the speed, for fear that I might mess up other things in our system.   When I move the box ahead that shows the time, the video often starts playing again.  That made no sense.  Our internet service is through AT&T.  Any ideas?

                                        • #161294
                                          Ginette
                                          Keymaster

                                            Hi Jan,

                                            The speed just makes the video go faster or slower, it won’t disrupt any systems. Have you tried changing your browser? If you’re using Chrome, try Firefox or vice versa.

                                        • #179935
                                          Eileen Carey
                                          Participant

                                            This guild is just the coolest, thank you to all involved in making it; Jane thank you for sharing your many talents.  I watch daily before my work day starts and that sets a wonderful tone for the next few hours to come!

                                            I’m a brand new weaver, have not completed anything but lots of attempts – which together with the videos have taught me much!  Question for you – why do you need a 4 harness loom, why can’t you do this on 2 harnesses?  One for the up, one for the down?

                                             

                                            Eileen

                                            • #179937
                                              Sandra
                                              Keymaster

                                                Good morning, Eileen.  If you look at the handout that comes with this episode, you will see that the ability to individually use each harness gives you so many more creative options in weaving your cloth.  You can do amazing things on 2 with Plain Weave and the design of your cloth, including colour and yarn choices.  But … look at the printout that comes with this episode, and you will see that many of the different patterns created in Weft Faced, Plain Weave Sequences are created with the tie-ups.  You have so much more creative access to your cloth by being able to raise 1, 2 or 3 harnesses at a time.  You have a whole new adventure ahead of you that will keep you exploring and learning about weaving for years to come.  It’s an amazing journey, welcome!

                                            • #186424
                                              Lee
                                              Participant

                                                Hello

                                                My question is are the floating selvedges included in the 60 threads in the warp? I have warped the loom and threaded all 60 threads 1-4 repeated etc. and then I took the first thread out of the first heddle and the last thread (60th) out of the last (fourth) heddle.

                                                I wanted to check before startting to weave the samples if I should have added two extra warped threads for the floating seveledges instead of what I did above.

                                                Thank you very much for your help. The online videos are fantastic and Jane is a natural engaging teacher.

                                                 

                                                Lee

                                                • #186428
                                                  Sandra
                                                  Keymaster

                                                    It doesn’t matter what heddle you take the floating selvedge out of, as long as it’s the outside warp threads on each side.  It looks like you have it!!  Have fun 😉

                                                • #191144
                                                  Helen Deighan
                                                  Participant

                                                    I am enjoying doing the weft faced PW sample. I can’t seem to get my selvedge good with the floating selvedge. I am now trying to keep to ‘dive the dip’ and ‘ jump the hump’ by looking at the last warp thread is this correct? Or is there another trick?

                                                    Helen

                                                    • #191248
                                                      Sandra
                                                      Keymaster

                                                        Helen – you are right, there is a floating selvedge in this sample.  It just goes to show me that Jane is ALWAYS right – there are no rules 😏  At least the references I gave you about where to find help with different selvedges will hopefully help.  Thanks, Ginette!

                                                    • #191198
                                                      Sandra
                                                      Keymaster

                                                        There isn’t a floating selvedge required for Plain Weave, Helen.  It might be helpful for you to go back to Season 1 and review Episode 5 where Jane reviews floating selvedges, working with alternating colours, hemstitching and other tips to help you improve your cloth better.  Also, there are a number of FAQs on the Knowledge Base that will give you more insight into selvedges.

                                                      • #202243
                                                        Susanne Gauthier
                                                        Participant

                                                          Hi Sandra,

                                                          I like the design options for this wonderful structure, but wondered what kind of cotton I could use on this linen warp that would be equivalent to the coverage Jane is getting with the thicker wool?

                                                          Is this type of structure the same as bound weave?  This will be my first weft faced sampler and I love the endless possibilities of small blocks of color.

                                                          Susanne

                                                          • #202280
                                                            Sandra
                                                            Keymaster

                                                              Hi Suzanne – you could use an 8/8 cotton for your weft, which should give you good coverage in your weft faced cloth.  There are so many possibilities with any structure and Boundweave is a weft faced structure.  Just think of your design options 😉

                                                          • #202299
                                                            Susanne Gauthier
                                                            Participant

                                                              Thank you Sandy,  I’ll try the 8/8 cotton.  You’re right the design options are amazing.  I’ve read many many drafts to see how things are ‘planned’ in the magazines and books,, but Jane’s explanations of twill and plainweave in weft faced sturctures are the best.  I  will watch these again and again.

                                                               

                                                            • #210949
                                                              Andrea Van Kleef
                                                              Participant

                                                                Hi

                                                                I have a couple of questions. I wasn’t quick enough to write down the name of the book on weft faced weaving Jane mentioned and now can’t find it on the video!

                                                                Also, I’m in the UK and was wondering what the best thickness of linen or cotton warp threead would be please? I have a 5 dent reed and lots of 4 ply yarn for the weft which is the equivalent of your 2 ply.

                                                                Many thanks

                                                                Andrea

                                                                 

                                                                • #210958
                                                                  Sandra
                                                                  Keymaster

                                                                    The book Jane referred to is The Weaving Book by Helene Bress.  As to your other question Andrea, I always default to yards per pound or convert to metres per 100 g to get an idea of the weight of a yarn I don’t have on hand.  Check the description of the linen or cotton that Jane uses for her samples, and find something as close to that as you can in your area of the world.  Colourmart looks like a great resource that you have available to you.

                                                                • #210966
                                                                  Andrea Van Kleef
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    Thankyou Sandra The book is out of print here unfortunately

                                                                    the yarn for the warp is a 12/4 linen but I’m unsure if that is metric or imperial?

                                                                    many thanks

                                                                    • #210972
                                                                      Sandra
                                                                      Keymaster

                                                                        Hopefully you can find Bress’s book in a library?  The linen that Jane carries for weft faced rug warp is 900 yards per lb.  Can you find some Wet Spun Tow Linen there that is close that yardage?  If so, it should be close to the same size and strength and would work for warp.  Maybe a Guild member in the UK will pop up with a suggestion. 🙏

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