Thoughts on 3.2.4 – Cramming & Denting at the Table

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    • #156222
      Ginette
      Keymaster

        Let us know your thoughts on 3.2.4 – Cramming & Denting at the Table.

      • #156223
        Elizabeth Arthur
        Participant

          The edge sections with 24 threads at 48 epi then have 2 dents with 2 threads at the outside edge and the rest with 4 threads?

          • #156225
            Summerhill Spinner
            Participant

              I was wondering about this, too.

            • #156227
              Elizabeth Arthur
              Participant

                I rewatched the video on weaving with linen and Jane says in the video that she always reduces the density of denting if the edges are crammed. My warp is wound according to the draft so when iI thread the reed I’ll just use 2 threads in each edge dent and push the 2 extra threads I did not use in the crammed edge sections inward adding them to the first spaced area.

                • #156228
                  Sandra
                  Keymaster

                    Jane would have been winding with 4 threads in her hand, that’s why there are still 4 in her selvedge dents. If you go back and look at the very beginning of Season 3.2.2 – Cramming & Denting Cotton Warp at the Loom, you will see where she would have reduced her selvedges by 2 threads in the outside dents. She just cut them out and kept on weaving with perfect selvedges.

                • #156235
                  Cat
                  Participant

                    I decided to wind two extra threads at either end to add to the outside. I know Jane cut two from the cotton warp, but i figured with draw-in that a pair of extra threads might not be a bad thing.

                • #156224
                  Rose
                  Participant

                    WOW Jane, you never cease to amaze me! I’m still weaving towels from season two which I find amazing enough, but this is going to be so much fun. Thank you so much for forming this online guild! I tell everyone about it, New weaver’s and old! Your the best!!
                    Rose (from Whidbey Island)

                  • #156226
                    WoolMoon
                    Participant

                      Loving all of these wonderful ideas. I need to live to be 127.

                    • #156229
                      sengle685
                      Participant

                        At 6.58 on the video you mention the “chart that comes” with this sample. I can’t seem to find that chart – pdf. Where is that? Thanks

                        • #156230
                          Ginette
                          Keymaster

                            The chart that Jane refers to is the chart on the draft of the Cramming & Denting sample. You’ll find it in the top left hand corner of the screen at the bottom of the JST logo. It’s the 2nd PDF for the lesson.

                        • #156231
                          Freya S.
                          Participant

                            Hi Jane, I must have missed something along the first two episodes of Season 3. Where can I access the PDF so I can download?
                            I am enjoying these sessions and would give linen a try, although I have a Jack loom. You are an inspiration. Is it also possible
                            to access Season 2 – Color and Design? I somehow missed it. Freya Oliver

                            • #156232
                              Ginette
                              Keymaster

                                Hi Freya,
                                When you are viewing the episode, on the left hand side of the screen, right at the bottom of the JST logo, there’s an eye & page icon. Click on the page icon and there will be 2 PDFs for the episode you can download.
                                As for Season 2, if you scroll down the page of the Episode page, you’ll see the episodes. They start 1/2 way down the page and there are 10 episodes for Season 2.

                            • #156233
                              sengle685
                              Participant

                                When Jane is weaving with the silk she mentions weaving the weft as 1 ppi in ‘open’ style. Looking at the chart wouldn’t that be ‘very open’ weaving 1 ppi? I am confused. Would it end up being 12 picks equaling 1 inch or 32 picks equaling 2 inches – according to the chart.

                                • #156234
                                  Ginette
                                  Keymaster

                                    Hi sengle685,
                                    For very open, yes, it’s 12 picks for 1 inch and you would put 1 thread per dent in the reed. You’ll be weaving 12 ppi for this part.
                                    For 32 threads for the open section, you’ll be threading your reed 1,1,2 with your sett for this section at 16 epi/ppi. This part will be in total 2 inches.

                                • #163417
                                  Dayamitra Blenman
                                  Participant

                                    Hi all,

                                    I cannot wait to try silk and linen together! I have just completed linen curtains for our cupboard. I wove them on our Jack loom. I thought I’d take a chance. I’d heard rumours about linen being hard to weave on a Jack loom, but I had no trouble at all! My curtains were just plain weave with a border of light green 8/2 cotton. I’m thrilled with them! It was quite lovely weaving with linen! I love silk and can’t wait to try the two together!

                                  • #185802
                                    francet08
                                    Participant

                                      Hi Jane,

                                      This is my first piece of cramming and denting, and I wanted the curtains in my weaving room. 128145108_395655995093251_4864913429372880144_nrideau128065465_194199215607282_6357002042266701489_nrideaua

                                      • #185815
                                        Ginette
                                        Keymaster

                                          Wow, just lovely! That is on my list of projects I want to weave. What yarns did you use?

                                      • #185920
                                        francet08
                                        Participant

                                          Hi Ginette, simply, 16/2 cotton yarn. Thank you!

                                        • #188131
                                          Barbara O’Connor
                                          Participant

                                            I had thought to use the all linen as a scarf, but it is obviously too stiff!   How do you finish the piece for a table runner?  I didn’t hem stitch as I had planned to do twisted fringe.  But it is beautiful!!

                                            • #188142
                                              Sandra
                                              Keymaster

                                                You can do a fringe on a table runner – it doesn’t have to be long, just long enough to secure your cloth.  You aren’t likely to wash it as frequently as a tea towel, or napkins – for instance, so it will stand up to gentle washing.

                                            • #199204
                                              Sonja Broekhuizen
                                              Participant

                                                After 7 minutes Jane uses this pdf. That is not one of the two download. Where can I find it?

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                                                • #199219
                                                  Sandra
                                                  Keymaster

                                                    Hi, Sonja.  That information is in your handout for this episode.  The paper that Jane used in the video is a working copy from when she used to physically teach classes in person.  After filming, she updates the information we get for online classes to match the sample that she has created for the Online Guild.  As you’ve probably seen, Jane creates while she weaves and so the information in your handout is what you need to wind your warp and weave your sample.  The information on using this chart is in the notes above it in your course material.  Hope this helps.

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                                                • #201595
                                                  Sharon
                                                  Participant

                                                    I got these squiggly lines in my warp after washing. Did I do something wrong?1C78F094-8997-4D00-BC8B-73C9A91CFDED

                                                    • #201612
                                                      Sandra
                                                      Keymaster

                                                        Have you tried steaming it and gently pulling it to see if the warp falls into place?  It looks good to me, if that was right after fulling and during but before steaming it.

                                                         

                                                         

                                                    • #201726
                                                      Sharon
                                                      Participant

                                                        it is after washing and ironing. I’m not really bothered by it. It looks interesting to me. The warp has a movement to it and snags easily. It’s just not “set” as much as I’d like. Perhaps my warp tension was too loose?  I did tighten the warp like Jane demoed. I was just wondering if anything was an obvious issue before I start the linen project.

                                                      • #201729
                                                        Sandra
                                                        Keymaster

                                                          It was all I could think of Sharon, to settle your warp in the way you hoped.  However, looking at other samples that Jane shows, it seems to be the charm of the fabric in the dented sections!  Look forward to seeing how your linen turns out.

                                                        • #208984
                                                          Andrea Van Kleef
                                                          Participant

                                                            Just wondered if anyone had tried this with Venne Cottolin ?

                                                            • #209020
                                                              Sandra
                                                              Keymaster

                                                                Cottolin is quite a bit thicker than the linen, so it would give a different look.  Why don’t you try it and report back or …. maybe with 16/2 cotton which is finer that cottolin.

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