Thoughts on 2.5.2 – Parrot at the loom

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    • #156575
      Ginette
      Keymaster

        Let us know your thoughts on 2.5.2 – Parrot at the loom.

      • #156576
        judy
        Participant

          I just delightedly opened Episode Five, but the video dives right in to the actual weaving of the parrot piece. Are there handouts with this lesson? If so, where would I find them– they’re not there when I click on the eye icon. I’m sure there’s a simple solution and I’m anxious to begin work on this episode as it uses delicious spring colours!

        • #156577
          Ginette
          Keymaster

            Hi Judy, the episode below this one has Jane at the table where she goes through all the wonderful bits, info & samples for this lesson. The Parrot draft PDF handout will be posted in the morning which is when the episode is officially released 🙂 lucky you for coming upon it posted a day early! Enjoy watching this lesson!
            Ginette

          • #156578
            Patricia
            Participant

              Love the episode, so much more food for thought.
              Love your passion Jane, it is infectious!
              Patricia

            • #156579
              tbrickerbrac
              Participant

                I don’t see any PDF for the 2.5.1 and 2.5.2
                I have time this morning a would love to start winding the warp 🙂

                • #156581
                  Sandra
                  Keymaster

                    It’s just after 8:00 am on the west coast – the PDF will be added as soon as the studio opens this morning! You will have seen the amazing work that has been going on in the background to make these episodes available with Closed Caption. The focus was in a new direction getting that ready for some of our members who needed this on Jane’s videos. As Jane would say – “soon, soon” you’ll be winding your warp!

                • #156580
                  Gabriele
                  Participant

                    At minute 23.32 Jane shows the pdf and it is possible to get the amounts of the threadnumbers (-: Hint for early warpers (-:

                  • #156582
                    egaverette
                    Participant

                      What loom are you using?

                      • #156583
                        Ginette
                        Keymaster

                          Jane is using the David loom.

                      • #156584
                        mbartlo
                        Participant

                          I love hearing the rhythm of your beat, Jane. I think the sound alone has made mine more even. This color scheme is way outside my comfort range and I have been itching to get to it. Thanks for all the challenges. Your directions are so complete and samples so abundant that I feel well prepared as I deal with the warp kits. This online guild has provided me with many happy hours at the loom this long Montana winter.

                        • #156585
                          Deborah
                          Participant

                            You mentioned something at the very end about using an 8 harness loom for clasped wefts. I’d love to know more about getting the power from my other harnesses – as we go along. Another great episode! Thanks for the terrific instruction and inspiration.

                          • #156586
                            juneh585
                            Participant

                              Loved this video! I have been racking my brain as to how to do a project. I want to make some wrist bands with letters incorporated in them. Could I do this with the second example? (The India example?) Or is there a better way. I tried to create a pattern in a weave design program, but it looked like it would require 16 shafts to accomplish my goal and alas I only have 8.

                              • #156587
                                Ginette
                                Keymaster

                                  Hi June, you can certainly try this technique to create the letters. It’ll take some extra time but it would be fun to try it.
                                  Ginette

                                  • #156588
                                    juneh585
                                    Participant

                                      I will try it and see if I can figure it out. I will let you know.

                                • #156589
                                  Jacqueline
                                  Participant

                                    Brilliant video once again. Love the clasp weft ideas, my mind is buzzing with all the ideas, just need to buy some more yarn!

                                  • #156590
                                    hicks9729
                                    Participant

                                      I must be missing something. I’m looking for the PDF file as well. Can you please direct me? BTW as a hearing challenged weaver, I am anxiously looking forward to episodes with closed captioning. 🙂 Thanks for inspiration and instruction.

                                      • #156591
                                        Ginette
                                        Keymaster

                                          Hi hicks9729,
                                          The PDF icon is at the top left corner of the screen on this lesson, just on the JST logo. You should see an ‘eye’ and below the eye is the ‘paper’ icon for the PDF. You can also find all the PDFs on the Episodes page, right at the top under the links for the Indexes. We do have closed captioning for this episode and Episodes 6 & 7 as well. We’ve just started doing this and we hope it will be helpful! When you’re watching the lesson, on the bottom right corner of the video there’s the CC symbol. Click on it and choose ‘English CC’ and closed caption will appear for you.
                                          Ginette
                                          ETA, I’ve just added the PDF to Parrot at the Table as well to make it easier to find

                                      • #156592
                                        Tommie
                                        Participant

                                          I thought when I subscribed to seasons 1 and 2 I could come back any time I view those videos. Is that not the case?

                                          • #156593
                                            Ginette
                                            Keymaster

                                              Hi Tommie, Absolutely! You can view each video as many times as you want during your membership. Are you having problems viewing any videos?

                                          • #156594
                                            Judith
                                            Participant

                                              I am curious about how Jane adds new threads. I was taught when I began, to simply overlap from one to the next. So, if changing from the navy zinger to the next color, for example, I was taught to put in about 1.5 inch of the navy, then bring in the new color and allow the two colors to overlap by maybe 3/4 inch. Yes, you have a double line of the navy, but you have that in Jane’s method as well only with much less snipping of the broken off threads on the back side. Just wondering about Jane’s reasoning for her method as opposed to the overlap method. Thanks!

                                              • #156596
                                                Jane
                                                Keymaster

                                                  Hi Judith,
                                                  I do it many different ways throughout the episodes as we build up options and technique. Remember…there is not right way or wrong way….just different ways.
                                                  Try out everything you see and then decide what you like the best.

                                              • #156595
                                                Judith
                                                Participant

                                                  When doing clasped weft, is it crucial to make sure you are going in the same direction each time you wrap the threads? i.e. – if the first time I bring my thread through I capture the alternate thread by going over and then under the alternate thread – is it crucial that I always go over then under? Will it make a difference if sometimes I go over and under and sometimes I go under then over?

                                                  • #156597
                                                    Jane
                                                    Keymaster

                                                      No, it won’t make a difference….but try it both ways to prove that to yourself 🙂

                                                  • #164226
                                                    Mary Pedro
                                                    Participant

                                                      I love the colors in this, can’t wait to start my weaving on it. However, I just had to laugh as I watched “at the loom” on this session and saw that the David Loom has a sticker that reads Cassidy. Made me chuckle. I had earlier noticed the Louet Spring has a label after the word Spring that reads “forward”. Jane if you are responsible I love your sense of humor as well as your wondrous weaving talent and skill as a teacher. Thanks

                                                      • This reply was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by Mary Pedro.
                                                    • #166082
                                                      Jocelyn Turner
                                                      Participant

                                                        I don’t have a castle over my shafts and so where would I put my shuttle when doing the Clasped Weft Weaving?
                                                        Renee’

                                                        • #166145
                                                          Sandra
                                                          Keymaster

                                                            When I didn’t have a shelf – one would rest on my cloth while I used the other.  Did I understand your question correctly, Renee?

                                                        • #166250
                                                          Jocelyn Turner
                                                          Participant

                                                            That is what I do now when using two yarns in the loom, so will try it when doing  the Clasped weft. Putting the shuttle higher just seems so much easier but not possible.

                                                          • #170555
                                                            Neva Thiessen
                                                            Participant

                                                              I am so excited to get into the color mixing of this session and especially the clasp weft method using 2/16 cotton.  Since I am just beginning to build a stash, I don’t have a great deal of my own supply.  What colors of  2/16 (that you sell) would you suggest if I am using the peacock color sequence.  I do like purples and greens,

                                                              Thanks,

                                                              Neva

                                                              • #170565
                                                                Sandra
                                                                Keymaster

                                                                  Hi Neva – why don’t you look at the yarn kits for this and the upcoming seasons and choose some 16/2 cotton in colours you like.  Then …… when you do those samples, and want to weave clasped weft – you’ll have started to build up a selection in your stash!  Just one idea…… 😉

                                                                  • This reply was modified 3 years, 3 months ago by Sandra.
                                                              • #173421
                                                                Elysa Dennett
                                                                Participant

                                                                  This was one of my favorite projects.  The parrot colors were not for me so I used different colors and these towels are so pretty… they are like stained glass windows.  I have them in my kitchen and enjoy them every time I see them. 🙂

                                                                  For the warp, I used Apricot, Pale Limette, Limette, Emerald, Dusty Blue and Purple.  For the weft I used the same colors and played with others like Cayenne, Teal, Tumeric, Light Blue, Butter, Light Brown, etc.

                                                                  I included a couple of towels below, they are much prettier in person, but I could not get the colors to be as vibrant in the photo.

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                                                                  The funny thing is the towels I had in a pile photographed much better. You can see the vibrancy a little better here… so gorgeous!

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                                                                  I can’t wait to do them again!

                                                                  • #175183
                                                                    Ginette
                                                                    Keymaster

                                                                      beautiful Elysa! Love the colours you chose 🙂

                                                                  • #176128
                                                                    Martha Eskin
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      Is it safe to assume Jane is also using 2/16 thread for the inlay technique?

                                                                      • #176147
                                                                        Sandra
                                                                        Keymaster

                                                                          Yes it is, Martha – have fun!

                                                                      • #186832
                                                                        Jan
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          To “open up” the original Parrot warp from 18 epi,  does Jane do a hem stitch, cut the warp to re-sley at either 12 or 16 epi (for the extra bit at the end of the warp), and tie up fresh to the front apron rod?  It seems obvious, but I may have missed this part.   I love these colors, and plan to weave something special at the end 🙂

                                                                           

                                                                          • #186834
                                                                            Sandra
                                                                            Keymaster

                                                                              You are “right on the money”, Jan!  Have fun opening up the warp and discovering new possibilities 😄

                                                                          • #188691
                                                                            christin_ramey
                                                                            Participant

                                                                              I’m having issues with skipped warp threads on this sample.  I haven’t had this issue before.  Is it a problem with the warp?  If I cut it off and retie it will that fix it?  Thanks,  Christine Ramey

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                                                                            • #190003
                                                                              Corie E Greene
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                I have had the same issue with a few skipped warp ends – same as Christine’s photo.  I am not sure what is causing this.  The shed appears fully open and my shuttle isn’t jumping threads….I wonder if you can help me understand why this happens.  Is a warp end twisted or crossed? or is one of the shafts not rising properly?  Many thanks for your help.

                                                                                • #190031
                                                                                  Sandra
                                                                                  Keymaster

                                                                                    It could be tension issues in your warp or the way you throw the shuttle on occasion. I still sometimes get skips after having woven for 20 years!  I watch for them and mend them either on the loom or when I’ve cut it off but before walking the fabric.

                                                                                • #190067
                                                                                  Corie E Greene
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    Oh good to know, thank you for sharing you still have them on occasion!  Being a newbie there are so many things to learn and think of – it can be exhausting..LOL! I will continue on working to improve my techniques so my weaving will flourish.  Thank you so much.  Happy New Year Sandra 🙂

                                                                                  • #197810
                                                                                    Trish
                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                      I notice this project – and some others – mention “updated version” of the pdf but it doesn’t say updated on the copy.  Without printing out all the updated ones to compare, was there maybe a date when each season was updated?  I’ve been a member since 2020. thanks

                                                                                       

                                                                                    • #198993
                                                                                      Pauline Sleigh
                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                        Thanks Sandra for your response to Corie Greene. I am also having some skipped thread issues (on my inherited from a friend home made 4 shaft) I’m confident it’s the shafts catching and bad technique on my behalf. I unweave and fix when I see them in time but am interested in the idea of mending on loom. Has Jane done a mending video? Or do you use the “egads! I have a knot in my warp” technique?

                                                                                        • #199020
                                                                                          Sandra
                                                                                          Keymaster

                                                                                            Here’s an article from the JST Knowledge Base that describes what Jane does, Pauline.  It’s easy if you catch your skip before you take your project off the loom!

                                                                                        • #200356
                                                                                          Elizabeth Solon
                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                            Hi! Thanks for the info! I don’t have the sample for this because I didn’t want to spend so much money especially since I am new new weaver. I could do the pattern part though, here are some pictures:C22EFD6A-EE32-4D68-8CC5-36A1392756C5image

                                                                                            these are the snakes I finished.

                                                                                            -Kai

                                                                                            • #200360
                                                                                              Sandra
                                                                                              Keymaster

                                                                                                Your snakes are delightful, Kai!

                                                                                            • #200401
                                                                                              Elizabeth Solon
                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                Thanks! By the the way, I’m only 10 years old.

                                                                                                • #200403
                                                                                                  Sandra
                                                                                                  Keymaster

                                                                                                    Thank you for telling me that. My granddaughters wove at your age as well!

                                                                                                • #200525
                                                                                                  Melissa Marvin
                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                    My take on clasp weft using the Parrot warp. On the left is handpainted silk in Ariel’s Voice. On the right is my own hand spun alpaca/silk. I’m really liking how its coming out. 20210319_200553

                                                                                                  • #211167
                                                                                                    needle1
                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                      Missed a division 3 threads(navy) in the middle of warp!! Any ideas how to add in! Total newbie. TIA

                                                                                                      Elena

                                                                                                      • #211171
                                                                                                        Ginette
                                                                                                        Keymaster

                                                                                                          Hi Elena,

                                                                                                          If you wanted to add those 3 threads, Jane shows how to add a few threads when changing zingers threads. You’ll find it in Season 2, Episode 2.

                                                                                                          -zinger, taking out your warp zinger & replacing it 2.2.3, 31:52

                                                                                                          I’d use this technique for sure. Otherwise, you could just leave them out too!

                                                                                                          Let us know how you make out or what you decide to do!

                                                                                                           

                                                                                                      • #211176
                                                                                                        needle1
                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                          Thank you so much for the guidance. Will let you know how it worked! It needs those division threads in my opinion.

                                                                                                          Elena

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