Thoughts on 2.2.3 – Introduction to Sample One

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    • #156806
      Ginette
      Keymaster

        Let us know your thoughts on 2.2.3 – Introduction to Sample One.

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      • #156807
        tbrickerbrac
        Participant

          Can I recommend a pack of COLOURED chalk for your sketches

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          • #156808
            Ginette
            Keymaster

              Hi there, we thought of that but the colours didn’t show up on the blackboard that well so we went back to just white.
              Ginette

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          • #156809
            Leigh Smith
            Participant

              I have changed video quality, and fought with section 2.2.3 until i am ready to commit a murder. every 30 seconds we get the little whirling circle and if I wait 2 minutes, or 4, it might deign to start again. Enough to drive you to drink. and so saying, i will now open a bottle of wine and just give up. The last section worked just fine.

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              • #156810
                Ginette
                Keymaster

                  Hi Leigh, it sounds like it’s a connection issue you’re having. Did you have the same problem with the other 3 videos and have you tried refreshing your browser and then play this episode again? Also, what are you viewing the videos on, a PC, Ipad…? Our tech guru is in next week, but we’ll try and help you with it until then.
                  How’s the wine? 😉
                  Ginette

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                • #156847
                  Sheryl Smith
                  Participant

                    I had the same problem with my Mac computer. The same the last section worked fine. Just persevered. Wee fart of a pickle.

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                    • #156848
                      Ginette
                      Keymaster

                        Wee fart of a pickle, I love that 🙂

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                  • #156811
                    Judy
                    Participant

                      I see the red was replaced by charcoal, then later by the teal. Nice.

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                    • #156812
                      Deborah Cannatella
                      Participant

                        Watching this episode I see already I’m going to have a problem. I was planning on using my stash of light and dark grey 2/8 cotillon with my 2/8 cotton… but as I’m working on my warping board, I’m seeing how much thinner the cottolin is than the cotton. But I will forge ahead and I will certainly learn about mixing these two threads in a warp! Don’t know that I’ll get squares, though.

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                      • #156813
                        Leigh Smith
                        Participant

                          The wine was just what the doctor ordered at that time. i came back tonight and before playing the episode, changed the quality to the lowest setting. Worked a treat. I am a tech dinosaur, so I have my problems.
                          so far so good. The other episodes worked with no problem.

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                          • #156814
                            Ginette
                            Keymaster

                              Oh great! Glad it’s working out. 🙂

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                              liz197355
                              Participant

                                Hi Leigh…I know this is been quite awhile since you posted. But I use to have connections problems. I got the company to come give me new routers. Still all to no avail. Finally, I got a hold of a really informative tech from the company. If you live in an area where several others are using same company to connect to the internet and you are using the company router you are going to have problems! To get around this you need to buy a different router from the store. And then call your internet provider to assist in connecting it….NOW if you can’t afford to buy a new router or it’s not worth the problems then you want to watch videos when there most likely is many less users on at the same time! Early morning or middle of night works very well…Middle of night not so much on weekends! To add there is a special type of router that works best…I have forgotten what it is…Please call your technical service…There are several routers that meet the qualification…

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                            • #156815
                              Alison
                              Participant

                                Where is the PDF?

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                                • #156816
                                  Ginette
                                  Keymaster

                                    Hi Alison,
                                    When you’re on the first episode ‘Creating your graphic library’, it’s at the top left of your screen right at the bottom of the JST logo.
                                    Ginette

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                                • #156817
                                  moira.white
                                  Participant

                                    I might have made my warp too long, but I used the entire white cone before I even started weaving. I’d like to recommend ordering a second white cone with the pack. Thanks — this is really interesting!

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                                    • #156846
                                      nc345
                                      Participant

                                        I wish I saw this sooner. I couldn’t finish my warp…20 ends short.
                                        And Just realizing that white is also needed for the weft.

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                                    • #156818
                                      Khabira Wise
                                      Participant

                                        I just finished one where I did the 3 dark/1 white repeat. When I switched colors when both were on the same side, I did the jump the bump, dive the dip thingy. Was I supposed to or is it not necessary when doing those 3/1 scallops? Thanks!

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                                        • #156819
                                          Ginette
                                          Keymaster

                                            Hi Khabira, jump the bump, dive the dip works well. You can certainly also do scalloping and see which one you prefer.

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                                            Ellen Black
                                            Participant

                                              If you use a floating selvedge you will it avoid the scallops ?

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                                              • #156826
                                                Ginette
                                                Keymaster

                                                  Hi Ellen, the scallops will still happen even with a floating selvedge. How many repeats are you doing?

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                                              Karen
                                              Participant

                                                Hello Jane,

                                                I just made the color change in my warp. Is the wrapped pin the final solution for the rest of the weaving or is there something else I should do once I have gotten some of the new piece woven?

                                                Thanks.

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                                                  Ginette
                                                  Keymaster

                                                    Hi Karen, by the ‘wrapped pin’, do you mean when you’ve attached the new threads to the woven piece with a pin? If so, after you’ve woven for a while, probably 1/2 yard, the threads should stay in place. If you’re not sure if you should remove the pin, you could leave it in and remove it when you’ve taken the cloth off the loom
                                                    Ginette

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                                                • #156822
                                                  Martha
                                                  Participant

                                                    I posted this after the wrong episode so am reposting it here. Sorry for the repetition.
                                                    I haven’t started on the sample yet (waiting for my order of 8/2 cotton from you guys — due on April 2), but I’m watching the episode to familiarize myself ahead of time.
                                                    Question re: weaving to a square. Should I judge whether it’s square when the warp is under the usual weaving tension, or should I release the tension and then check?
                                                    And on the 4/4 repeats — do I create the interlock of threads at the selvedges (the dive & bump) or just loop the edge threads across 4 picks of the other color? (I read your answer about the 3 and 1, but 4 seems a lot to “scallop”)?

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                                                    Ginette
                                                    Keymaster

                                                      Hi Martha, I usually square under tension but you can certainly try both and see the difference. I do the dive/bump with 4/4 threads. For the base sample asymmetry, I did not run the white thread up the coloured sections, I tucked the tails in. And no worries about posting in 2 different spots 🙂

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                                                      • #156824
                                                        Martha
                                                        Participant

                                                          can’t wait to get the 8/2 and warp up the loom for this. Thanks for the help!

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                                                        dornan.trainer
                                                        Participant

                                                          I have a question re 2/16 cotton.
                                                          Hi! I want to use 2/16 and make a series of napkins rather than use 2/8. Jane’s sett chart says to sett 2/16 at 24epi for a firm fabric. This doesn’t line up with the recommended setts on the yarn page in Jane’s shop. Can someone please confirm the 24 epi? Thanks so much.
                                                          PS. I am really loving the Guild. Jane is so fun to be with. So much enthusiasm and joy.

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                                                          • #156828
                                                            Ginette
                                                            Keymaster

                                                              Hi, I would use the sett in Jane’s master sett chart and weave the 2/16 at 24 EPI in plain weave for firm napkins for sure. They will be lovely and will hold their shape for many years to come.

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                                                            rachel
                                                            Participant

                                                              Hi –

                                                              I’m late to joining the guild, but loving it as I’m catching up. A quick question on this project – will one cone of the white be enough for a 6 yard warp and to weave all the samples Jane shows?

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                                                              • #156831
                                                                Sandra
                                                                Keymaster

                                                                  You will certainly have enough with one cone to wind your 6 yard warp and weave the Asymmetry Sample plus more. Jane would have been working on a longer warp and she hopes we’ll look at what she has woven as a starting off point to our own creations. Running out of white might give you the impetuous to explore with other colours in your stash. Please share what you create on the Forum, Rachel!

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                                                                sengle685
                                                                Participant

                                                                  I may have missed it but when you replace the red warp with the dark gray, how long did you make that chain or how can you figure out how long to make it? You didn’t mention changing out the dark gray with the teal, when did you do that?
                                                                  Thanks,

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                                                                  • #156833
                                                                    Sandra
                                                                    Keymaster

                                                                      That’s a hard question to answer – it depends 😉 It depends on how much warp you have left in your warp. If you know how long your warp was to start with and know how much you have already woven, you should be able to make a good “guesstimate”. You can change the colour stripe whenever you are ready to change things up.

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                                                                    Denise Voss
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      I am a new weaver and really learning a lot from these videos. Can someone please explain what is meant by “scalloping” on the selvages?
                                                                      Thanks!

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                                                                      • #156835
                                                                        Sandra
                                                                        Keymaster

                                                                          Jane is referring to carrying the weft up the side of the cloth.

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                                                                      • #156836
                                                                        cynthiaquilici
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          Can I ask how long it took people to wind the warp for the Asymmetry project? Beginners vs. Jane or other experienced adepts?

                                                                          I thought it might take me an hour or two, but it ended up being 3.5 hours or so, with a couple of tiny breaks. This was 6 yards on a warping board (not a mill), in two segments (only half the warp would fit at one time), and with a single thread at a time. I had to prop the board up tied to a couple of chairs, so my approach wasn’t entirely optimal, but I’d still like to get an idea of how much time to set aside in an average scenario in order to complete the project warps in one “sitting” as recommended.

                                                                          I did have a very good experience with the tight chaining demonstrated in Season One, put the cross right up at the end, and I left off any tying except for the cross. No training wheels! This is only the third warp I have ever wound, so I am trying to establish good habits with this course.

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                                                                          • #156837
                                                                            Robyn B
                                                                            Participant

                                                                              It took me about the same time as you – done over 3 days. I have my warping board hung on a door and tied to a door knob to keep it from moving too much. Hoping the next ones will go a little faster with more practice.

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                                                                          • #156838
                                                                            Cindy Solomon
                                                                            Participant

                                                                              Just beginning with the guild. First Asymmetry sample is a towel for the towel exchange at MAFA in 1 week.

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                                                                            • #156841
                                                                              Jacquelyn Partain
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                Hi, I wound my warp for this sample and it just occurred to me that i wound three dark grey stripes after the red one instead of two dark grey stripes at that point. I know it will change the graphic but will this ruin the graphic ? I am content to weave it as is, but would like to know what could be done in such a case to remove them. I think it would involve doing something to the 10 dark grey threads and the 10 white threads following them in order to keep the sequence correct but i have no clue what to do….how would i take them out? The warp is on the back rod, with lease sticks in, and ready to be put in the raddle.
                                                                                Thanks so much for this learning experience, it is definitely increasing my skill, even if i am making some mistakes along the way 🙂

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                                                                                • #156842
                                                                                  Sandra
                                                                                  Keymaster

                                                                                    Go with what you have wound! It just a different version of the sample. As you will hear Jane say to you: it’s not right, it’s not wrong – it’s just different! Enjoy

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                                                                                • #156844
                                                                                  Judith
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    Glad to see I am not the only one just getting to the Asymmetry lesson. I have so enjoyed these lessons. It takes me a while because I stop to take notes, sketch out things, etc. I clearly was not listening in math class at some point because I had never heard of Fibonacci rule until a couple years ago. But even then, I did not understand how to use it when designing graphics until Jane’s lessons! I feel much more capable of designing or playing with design now. I hope to get the Asymmetry samples done over the next week.!

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                                                                                  • #156845
                                                                                    Judith
                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                      I just did the “change out the warp” section of the lesson. And it worked! Thank you Jane, for such clear step by step instructions!

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                                                                                    • #156849
                                                                                      cwmaxson
                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                        This just totally blows my mind, but in a good way! Can’t wait to get the warp wound and on the loom to start playing. How many picks can you do the scallop rather than dip/bump? Would a sequence of 8 be too many, do you think? And, I have many times used Jan Brett’s beautiful illustrations as inspiration for knitting patterns, so I’m excited to think about them with weaving inspiration too!

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                                                                                        • #156850
                                                                                          Sandra
                                                                                          Keymaster

                                                                                            It’s an “it depends” answer 😉 If you are not planning to use your sample, then a small scallop of about 6 wouldn’t be a problem. However, personally – I don’t like to have a scallop that might catch on something and pull the thread back out of the side of the warp. I tend to only do very small scallops and secure most of my weaving with the “dip/bump”. I’d rather be safe than sorry. Have fun with Sample One!!! You are on an amazing journey.

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                                                                                          Sandra Easthope
                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                            This is probably a real stupid question to all you great weavers. I am brand new and this is my first warp, with saying that, my question is: When it says in the warping sequence of 30 bleached does that mean 15 in the upper part of the cross and 15 in the lower part of the cross or 30 in the upper part of the cross and 30 in the lower part of the cross?

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                                                                                            • #156852
                                                                                              Ginette
                                                                                              Keymaster

                                                                                                Hi Sandra,
                                                                                                You’ll have 30 ends all together in your cross. Just in case you’ve missed it, Season 1 Episode 5.5 Jane counts the warp on the warping board at the cross. It’s a great visual if you’d like to watch it.

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                                                                                            • #158920
                                                                                              Holly Motzko
                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                Goodness how long was your warp for this video?  Great video?  Also where can I find the video that you show the hemstitch?Thank you so very much!

                                                                                                • This reply was modified 12 months ago by Holly Motzko. Reason: Forgot the hem stitch question
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                                                                                                • #158958
                                                                                                  Sandra
                                                                                                  Keymaster

                                                                                                    Hi Holly – you can find a copy of the video on hemstitching on the JST Knowledge Base – along with a lot of other information.  Happy hemming!

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                                                                                                • #158954
                                                                                                  Diane Mehegan
                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                    I’m wondering if I can make this sample wider, to use as dish towels. I was thinking of increasing the first white section to 50 and the final white section to 104 giving a total thread count of 324. Would this work for the rest of the samples in this season?

                                                                                                     

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                                                                                                  • #158959
                                                                                                    Sandra
                                                                                                    Keymaster

                                                                                                      Hi Diane, if you wanted to make dish towels out of all your samples – each sample would require unique calculations.  For instance, you would have to increase each square in the grid on the colour samples and the colour and weave sample, etc.  Jane will also show you how to open up your sett to increase the width of your sample while it’s on the loom, with a different weight yarn.  Watch each series of videos when you get to them and then decide what you want to do.  There is soooo much to learn 😉

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                                                                                                    • #161341
                                                                                                      SueMcd
                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                        Not seeing any images on this thread so I’m not sure if I’m posting in the right place. Thrilled to be working through Season 2 and trying to take my time to play! First pic is my first warp working through the samples Jane demo’d. I made them into full sized towels and ran out of warp! Ooops! But I got wonderful practice hemstitching. My first time and I feel very comfortable with the basic version now.

                                                                                                        I didn’t want to leave the lesson quite yet so I put another warp on – longer and with different colors and fiber. Really liked the last sample Jane showed in the classroom so opened sett to 16 epi and used 2/8 cotton for warp but boucle for weft (except for zinger which I kept in cotton). Great learning lesson. My first time with boucle and observing the difference between 18epi and 16epi. Everything is washed up and wonderful – though I still  have some hemming to do.

                                                                                                        Thanks everyone!!!

                                                                                                        Sample1

                                                                                                        Sample1b

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                                                                                                          Sandra
                                                                                                          Keymaster

                                                                                                            They look great, Sue!  You are giving yourself a gift of practice by doing the sample over again with boucle.  👏👏👏

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                                                                                                          • #161388
                                                                                                            Ginette
                                                                                                            Keymaster

                                                                                                              Beautiful Sue, that’s great you put on a second warp! And yes, you can absolutely post pictures under the video threads. We’re hoping that this trend continues 🙂

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                                                                                                          • #161476
                                                                                                            Mary Pedro
                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                              I have a question for Jane or whomever can answer it. In the YouTube video “Warping the Louet Spring Loom”, Jane threads the warp on 8 shafts, then does a tie-up for and weaves plain weave. I have a Louet Spring Loom and for the first sample I only used four shafts and of course only had to use two treadles. I’m ready to start the color and weave gamp and wondered if it would be ok to use 8 shafts rather than just??? Yes, I overdid the question marks.

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                                                                                                              • #161503
                                                                                                                Sandra
                                                                                                                Keymaster

                                                                                                                  Hi Mary, you could spread your warp over 8 shafts, if you reeeeally wanted to, but – my mind brings up a “why bother”.  You and your Spring will have lots of time to explore 8 shaft weaving, but PW has so many ways of creating exquisite fabric, I’d just enjoy the journey.  JMHO 😉  The last four harnesses on my David are getting a good rest these days as I continue to explore PW.

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                                                                                                              • #161709
                                                                                                                Jenni Gormley
                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                  Hi Jane. Here I am in Australia, social distancing because of Corona virus. So stuck at home with my husband who has Alzheimers Disease. I thought this would be a wonderful opportunity to get stuck in to your course. I’m enjoying it so much. Love the Asymmetry towels. But where to find a stash of photographs?? Then I remembered Shutterstock (online stock photos) and the first thing to come up was a beautiful (???) photo of the virus. I’m not much good at finding colours in pictures, so I threw it into the Adobe colour scheme creator which came up with 5 beautiful colours (including a “zinger”).

                                                                                                                  stock-photo-coronavirus-ncov-novel-coronavirus-concept-resposible-for-asian-flu-outbreak-and-coronaviruses-1625951248

                                                                                                                  So the colours I have picked for my Sample 1 are: Teal 5068, Rouge vin 5115, Noir 83, Stone 8115, Brique 985.

                                                                                                                  Looking forward to getting to know my Leclerc Artisat a bit better. It’s been hanging around for a few years now doing a better job at collecting dust than weaving (although I have done a few projects on it. Love weaving but winding the warp and dressing the loom has always been confronting. I am feeling a lot more confident now after watching you.)

                                                                                                                  So I’ll order the cottons (I’m afraid that I will have to use my local supplier — freight from the US is way to expensive here!!!) and get started asap. Looking forward to keeping in touch and having you there to help when the problems arise.

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                                                                                                                    Sandra
                                                                                                                    Keymaster

                                                                                                                      What a delight your message is, Jenni!  I’ll make sure that Jane sees it – she will be delighted.  I’ve seen pictures of the coronavirus and thought it a beautiful design of nature.  I’m really looking forward to seeing photos of your Asymmetry sample.  BTW – Jane’s studio is on Salt Spring Island, between Vancouver Island and the southern mainland of British Columbia, Canada.  So when you watch Jane, picture her in her Studio, on a beautiful island that is home to many writers, artists and weavers!

                                                                                                                      PS – it doesn’t make shipping to Australia any cheaper 😉

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                                                                                                                  • #161719
                                                                                                                    Jenni Gormley
                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                      Very sorry for the US/Canada mistake. I know you Canadians are often quite understandably very proud of NOT being part of the land below you. We like to be distinguished from New Zealanders too. LOL

                                                                                                                      When my yarns arrive and get warping I will post more pix.

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                                                                                                                    • #161723
                                                                                                                      Jenni Gormley
                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                        5 cones 8/2 cotton ordered… can’t wait.

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                                                                                                                      • #161947
                                                                                                                        Mary Pedro
                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                          I enjoyed weaving sample one. I have to say though that I wound up with different lengths of towels but I did have fun trying to create. I sketched an idea after the first towel and then tried to weave it. Again I say I had fun but the four and half towels I wound up with are not the same length which was my fault entirely. Oh well I can keep them or give only one to a recipient. Learned a lot though. I’m trying to create my warp for Sample 2 and it is HARD. I will persevere and hope I get it somewhat right on my loom.Wanted to post pictures of those towels but can’t seem to manage that from my MAC.

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                                                                                                                        • #162730
                                                                                                                          jackdogcompton
                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                            Hi,

                                                                                                                            I’m learning a lot by working through Seasons 1 and 2 simultaneously.  I’m a new weaver though and I don’t have a stash built up.  I get the idea of expanding your warp in Sample 1 by threading the reed differently (16 epi to 12 epi) but I don’t get how Jane knows to use 8/4 cotton for the weft when the warp is 8/2 cotton.  The Master Sett chart assumes that the warp and weft use the same weight yarn.  Can I use 8/2 cotton in the weft since I don’t have a stash? And is there a Master Sett chart for warps and wefts of different yarn weights?  Thanks so much!

                                                                                                                            Carol

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                                                                                                                          • #162736
                                                                                                                            Sandra
                                                                                                                            Keymaster

                                                                                                                              The importance of 50/50 © Jane Stafford Textiles

                                                                                                                              Jane has talked about getting a 50/50 (balanced) weave structure.  In order to do that you take your normal sett for your warp and your normal sett for your weft.  Add the 2 together and divide by 2 to get your sett for a different weight warp and weft.  For instance, if your warp is 8/2 cotton and you decide you are going to sett it at 18 epi – then you decide that you’ll use 8/4 cotton as your weft at 12 epi as listed on the Master Sett Chart.  You add the 18 + 12 = 30 divided by 2 = 15 or 16 epi.  I would thread 16 because it’s easier to divide it up in a variety of reeds.  Either way, you would have a balanced cloth.

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                                                                                                                              jackdogcompton
                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                Ah, this is so very helpful!  Thanks so much!  I do love a good equation to refer to!  😉

                                                                                                                                Last question … If I double my 8/2 threads, will that approximate an 8/4?  Since I don’t have a stash yet.

                                                                                                                                Thank you!

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                                                                                                                                • #162775
                                                                                                                                  Sandra
                                                                                                                                  Keymaster

                                                                                                                                    Double thread weft

                                                                                                                                    Yes, you can, but be careful keeping the tension even on both threads – it can be a challenge.

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                                                                                                                                  jackdogcompton
                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                    I think I am beginning to understand how to manage selvedges, but I would love if you could confirm my understanding.  It sounds like when weaving with multiple colors you can choose whether to allow scalloping at the edges OR to interlace the threads.  If you want to interlace the threads, that’s when you “jump the bump, dive the dip.”. If you want scallops, you just switch the colors and ignore the bumps and dives.  Is that right?

                                                                                                                                    I haven’t liked the look of my selvedges when I’ve tried interlacing.  I get knobs at the selvedges that make them look more bumpy than I would like.  Perhaps this is just a  matter of  practice?  At any rate, I just want to make sure I’m not mixing up concepts!

                                                                                                                                    Thank you!

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                                                                                                                                    • #165402
                                                                                                                                      Sandra
                                                                                                                                      Keymaster

                                                                                                                                        In Praise of Good Selvedges: Practical Tips for Weavers

                                                                                                                                        Here’s a wonderful article that Jane has written and it lives on our Knowledge Base. I  personally wouldn’t ignore securing the weft at the selvedge, unless you are weaving narrow stripes.  Having scallops of unsecured weft could give you an edge that could catch on something.  If I haven’t totally answered your question, let us know.

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                                                                                                                                      jackdogcompton
                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                        Hi Sandra,

                                                                                                                                        Thanks for sharing the tips for good selvedges.  I’ve been practicing with these, and they definitely help.  But my immediate question is specifically about managing threads of multiple corners at the selvedges.  If I have just 1-3 picks of a light color and I want to switch to a dark, what are my options?  Do I always “jump the bump” or is there a choice to be made, like scalloping?

                                                                                                                                        I’m honestly just trying to pin down the terminology!  Is the choice between scalloping versus “jump the bump …”  And is “jump the bump” the same as interlacing, or do these mean different things?

                                                                                                                                        I hope I asked my questions more clearly this time!  Thanks as always for your help!

                                                                                                                                        Carol

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                                                                                                                                        • #165449
                                                                                                                                          Sandra
                                                                                                                                          Keymaster

                                                                                                                                            I guess where I’m getting a wee bit confused is with the word scallop.  I don’t usually think of that word with reference to a selvedge but more of a decorative trim, say in knitting 😉  Have you watched Jane weaving the Colour and Weave gamp?  I think just watching and listening to her weave that sample, will clarify things.  Let me know if you still have questions afterwards.  Visuals always make a huge difference to me!

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                                                                                                                                            Sandra
                                                                                                                                            Keymaster

                                                                                                                                              I guess where I’m getting a wee bit confused is with the word scallop.  I don’t usually think of that word with reference to a selvedge but more of a decorative trim, say in knitting 😉  Have you watched Jane weaving the Colour and Weave gamp?  I think just watching and listening to her weave that sample, will clarify things.  Let me know if you still have questions afterwards.  Visuals always make a huge difference to me!

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                                                                                                                                            jackdogcompton
                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                              Sorry, Sandra!  I guess there are times that emailing communications goes awry!  Let me try to ask this differently one more time (and I won’t use the word scallop).  Are you saying that you ALWAYS “jump the bump” when changing colors, even when making stripes with 1-3 picks?

                                                                                                                                              I’ll quit asking if this still doesn’t land!  🙂  Thank you ….

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                                                                                                                                                Sandra
                                                                                                                                                Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                  The direct answer is no 🤣 – if you are, for instance, weaving the colour gamp, and you are weaving a light, dark, dark, light – you can safely carry the yarn up two picks, possibly three.  Any more than that, you would come into having an unsecured thread running up the sides of your piece, and they are not nice.  Have you watched Jane weaving the Colour and Weave gamp yet?  If you haven’t reached that yet – skip ahead and watch it, that whole gamp is weaving light and dark picks.  AND – never quit asking, Carol!!!  Weaving terms can sometimes add a bit of spice to trying to get an idea across.

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                                                                                                                                                jackdogcompton
                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                  Okay!  That helps!  And I thank you for your kindness and persistence!  🙂

                                                                                                                                                  And, yes, am loving the Color and Weave vids.  Will start warping that sample today!

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                                                                                                                                                  Joy Clenaghan
                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                    Hi,

                                                                                                                                                    Is there a video where Jane shows how to “open up” the sett? I hope I’ve used the correct terminology. I’m assuming you cut in front of the reed, replace the reed with another,  or rethread the current reed with a new sett. After rethreading, do you next just tie on in front again? Thank you!

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                                                                                                                                                      Sandra
                                                                                                                                                      Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                        Hi Joy, Jane talks about it but doesn’t demonstrate (that I can find).  However, you’ve got it!  If you have a reed that will space your warp more evening at your new sett – then use it.  If not, just have fun – it’s magic at the loom.

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                                                                                                                                                      Josephine Tobin
                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                        Hello. I am not quite at this stage in the lessons yet, but wanted to take advantage of the Back to the Loom sale this weekend and order the yarn for the Sample One. Is it possible to do it using other colours, keeping in mind a gradation of one colour and a zinger? I am not really inspired by black/grey and red. Thanks!

                                                                                                                                                         

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                                                                                                                                                          Sandra
                                                                                                                                                          Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                            Good morning, Josephine.  To answer your question – of course it is OK to change colours to suit your colour preferences.  I look forward to seeing photos of Sample 1 in your colours.  You’re beginning your journey by creating samples that are your unique style.  Happy shopping!

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                                                                                                                                                          Josephine Tobin
                                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                                            Thank you Sandra.

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                                                                                                                                                            Anita Parkinson
                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                              Finally “finished” my Season 2 sample 1.  This is my 3rd ever warp.  I still have so much to learn for even selvedges, getting a balanced fabric, and hemming, but it’s done and I had a good time.  For me it was a very challenging sample, but I learned a lot.  Jane’s teaching is very good, the video is great, and this forum really helps me as a beginner.  I have so much to learn.  I’m a little terrified of making the Sample 2 warp.  I shall have to review the Season 1 episodes, with new eyes!Season 2 Sample one finished part 2Season 2 Sample one finished part 1

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                                                                                                                                                                Sandra
                                                                                                                                                                Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                  Way to go, Anita!  👏👏👏

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                                                                                                                                                                Carrie McBride
                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                  Hi there,

                                                                                                                                                                  I’ve finished the Asymmetry sample and loved the idea of changing a warp color.  I now have a warp on the loom with small 1-2 thread stripes of a color that is not working.  In total it would be 24 threads that would need to be replaced.  Is this many threads recommended?  They are evenly spaced throughout the warp.

                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks in advance!

                                                                                                                                                                  Carrie

                                                                                                                                                                   

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                                                                                                                                                                    Sandra
                                                                                                                                                                    Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                      I’m imagining trying to maintain even tension on 12 sets of new warp threads, spread  across a warp.  What were you thinking of using to maintain even tension on each set, Carrie?  Can you use a different weft that would change the appearance of those warp stripes?

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                                                                                                                                                                    Carrie McBride
                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                      Hi Sandra,

                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks for your quick response!

                                                                                                                                                                      I am not far from the beginning of the warp so I was going to wind back and tie on again.  Then try to evenly weight the threads on the back.  Am I being too hopeful??

                                                                                                                                                                      Carrie

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                                                                                                                                                                        Sandra
                                                                                                                                                                        Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                          You can always try, Carrie.  The best thing that could happen is that you can create tension on those mini sections that won’t even show in the finished cloth.  The worst is that you’ll learn something.  That’s what is exciting about our weaving journey.

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                                                                                                                                                                        Morfydd Ransom-Hall
                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                          Hi.   Really enjoying the course and find Jane’s teaching so clear.    I have ‘sorted’ myself out by multiple viewings of the videos.   There is one thing I can not get correct.   When two threads come through the Reed I cannot get a square when weaving.  I have tried repositioning the yarn on the apron rod but it moves back.   I am sure it is simple answer.

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                                                                                                                                                                            Sandra
                                                                                                                                                                            Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                              Don’t worry about it, that’s just the way it is!  Just make sure that you are beating the right number of ppi (picks per inch) and all will settle out in the wash 🙂

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                                                                                                                                                                            Morfydd Ransom-Hall
                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks Sandra.  I have noticed that when washed things improved.  But wanted to check in case I was doing a simple error.  Thought it could be the beating as I weave on an Erica loom which is lightweight.  A great loom to see how much I take to weaving – yes that worked now will order a Spring 2 in January in post Brexit Britain!

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                                                                                                                                                                              Sylvie Benoit
                                                                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                hi,  here are my sample.   I had a little trouble with the tension with the replace thread.

                                                                                                                                                                                I’ve been weaving for few years now….but I learn so much with you, I understand more

                                                                                                                                                                                what is going on on my loom.   Thank you20201223_08070220201223_080606

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                                                                                                                                                                                Sylvie Benoit
                                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                  Hi,  when I change colors it shows a lot,  maybe I do something wrong.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Sylvie Benoit
                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Sylvie Benoit
                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                      When I start weaving I’ve been told to split the ends when changing colors.

                                                                                                                                                                                      It is a long way of doing things on every color changes, but now all my colors changing

                                                                                                                                                                                      appears.  Am I using to long ends.   It is surely more efficient not splitting the ends but what do I do wrong.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        Sandra
                                                                                                                                                                                        Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                          Sylvie, are you ending and starting your new bands of colour on opposite sides of your cloth to prevent build-up?  Have you washed your samples yet? Sometimes the ends relax into the cloth after it’s washed.  You could just secure your yarn changes about an inch into the cloth, they might not show as much.  The more you practice, the better you get so don’t worry too much about it and just weave.  However, you are also noticing things that are happening in your fabric, and that’s good!  That’s how we all learn to become better weavers.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        Anita Parkinson
                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                          When I open up the warp from 18 epi to 12 epi do I try to get 12 ppi with the boucle I am using?  Will that a make a square negative space?

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Sandra
                                                                                                                                                                                            Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                              You’ve got it, Anita!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Melissa Marvin
                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                              HI,

                                                                                                                                                                                              I have been weaving on and off for a couple of years. I use tapestry, RH and 4h looms. I am using my Baby Wolf for this workshop. I have learned so much about why and what is happening at my loom. I have woven my sample and now I am having fun with my sketch book and weaving the sketches to life on my loom. I haven’t quite gotten the courage up to change out a section of warp. I will probably watch that part a few more times. Thanks for making your years of experience available to us!

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Leslie Soopalu
                                                                                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                Problem solving help appreciated. Not sure where this really belongs as it is about warping but because it is for this 1st sample project I’m putting it here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                I’ve used a warping reel for the first time and had to make a partial warp because I ran out of space at the last corner before the bottom peg. I’ve got 170 ends on this first part of the warp. By the time I got to the end, I noticed that the tension of the first 30 ends warped had really loosened significantly. I’m trying to understand why. I did do a bonehead thing and perhaps that is the culprit. At about 50 or so ends I saw that the bottom corner was getting tight and I was hoping to fit the whole warp on so I somewhat easily slip the bottom corner up about 2 inches. I’m guessing that that messed up the section at the top?? Does that make sense and seem like the likely culprit?

                                                                                                                                                                                                Can I use this warp or will this be problematic? I was hoping I could tighten it all up on the loom. Any help appreciated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                (In the picture you can see the top ends of the warp sagging. This is the first sample project I’m just using different colours that I already had in my stash.)8FB8ED34-E489-4BDC-9A36-2C8CDBC6CA21

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Sandra
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I think you will be able to salvage your warp, Leslie.  You are going to have to put it on more slowly, moving the looser threads back along the warp as you wind it on.  That looseness will be very difficult to remove once the warp is on your back beam.  If you put on in a way that allows you to remove that looseness before it wraps onto the warp beam, you will – hopefully – be OK.  It will be a slow process but you should be able to save it.  Because, I don’t have a lot of room behind my loom – I still wind my warp on using the method that Jane demonstrates in her original YouTube videos  that were created for Louet.  Let us know how it all works out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Leslie Soopalu
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks Sandra. If I get into trying to smooth out the tension as you suggest and find it’s not working, does it  make sense to try and isolate the section that is loose and just cut it off and redo that part of the warp? (is that even possible?) It seems to be isolated to the 30 ends at the beginning because if memory serves there is actually a break in the warp….meaning it is no longer a continuous thread between the first 30 ends and the rest of the warp.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Haha, I’m not feeling overly confident about smoothing out a 6 yard warp with it turning into a tangled gong show but I’m willing to give it a shot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sandra
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                        If you were able to secure the first thread of black to your first peg, you might be able to save it, but be prepared to for a lesson you will never forget 😏  Keep in mind that the whole warp is worth the price of 1 cone of 8/2 cotton plus all the time you are investing in trying to save it.  At this point – I probably would call it a lesson learned and wind another warp being very aware of my tension as I wound it.  Just looking at your warp my guess is that you were timid when you first started and then either consciously or unconsciously compensated as you continued.  Getting your warp evenly tensioned does take practice and more practice.  You could consider this your first practice warp.  Keep in mind that putting a bad warp on your loom will not help you weave good cloth – you could be creating more headaches!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Leslie Soopalu
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I attempted 4 strands at a time for the first block of 30. It was awkward to say the least. I think the first 24 strands are done 4 at a time and the final 6 are done with 1 strand held.

                                                                                                                                                                                                         

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Leslie Soopalu
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I thank you for your clarity Sandra. I am happy to call this a lesson learned and take your advice and start again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                           

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          alexander mackenzie
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            I replaced the zinger with dark grey and I can’t get rid of this frowny fell. If I add lots of weight, and then tension the rest of the warp as tight as piano strings, it resolves, but then creeps back after a while. I add more weight, take away weight, adjust tension…. I feel like I’m shooting in the dark. Any wisdom? This is at 12 epi, so good and sleezy. Easy to move threads around.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            alexander mackenzie
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                              looking for help with this warp tension issue, above

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ginette
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hi Alexander,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Did you replace the zinger with the same yarn as the rest of the warp? What happens when you loosen your tension a bit on both warp and the weight?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think once it’s off the loom and you give the cloth a gentle tug on the bias, it should straighten everything out. What weft are you using? it seems thicker in some places.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                alexander mackenzie
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes, same 8/2 cotton for the warp. The weft is slub cotton. Really happy to hear you suggest a tug of the bias. It’s so loose in threads, I feel optimistic that could work.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I wasn’t able to get lasting or consistent results from changing the weight on the 10 threads, or the warp tension generally, so I was hoping there was some standard response about increasing or decreasing weight. I like just giving it a tug! I’ll post the final result.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks for your help.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Christine King
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hi Jane and crew. I am new to the guild and loving it. I would like to do sample one but only have a 10 dent reed. The reed substitution chart doesn’t give me 18 epi or 12 epi for a 10 dent reed. Could I slay it at 17.5 epi and 12.5 epi. Many thanks. Chris

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Sandra
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You certainly can, Christine – work with what you have!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Christine King
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Thank you Sandra. I will invest in another reed but not sure yet whether to get a 8 dent or 12 dent. Watch this space x

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Amy Sachs
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Oh Jane, You crack me up and make me laugh!  I am always trying to find a way to use up bobbins!  I consider it a personal victory!  To hear you talk about using up bobbins to get a free one made me giggle! Thanks! Really enjoying the guild.  I’ve learned so much, and I get a good laugh from your happy personality!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Rene Sollars
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            So, I posted a reply earlier today but I don’t see it.  Is there a wait for approval or did I miss a step somewhere?  I was sharing my asymmetry towels and shawl.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Rene Sollars
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ok, so  maybe the third time is the charm.  I downsized my images even smaller and I’m trying again.  Here are my four towels at 18 epi 18 ppi and my shawl made with Zephyr on cotton at 12 epi 12 ppi.

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