Season 3: Episode 8: Plain Weave with Supplementary Warp

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  • #96292

    taty.lauwers
    Participant

    thanks Jane.

    BTW I published a post on your guild in my blog for French and Belgian users: http://www.aufildelautre.fr/JSTonlineguild.html

    And I attached a summary of your episodes, with translation into French: http://www.aufildelautre.fr/JSTonlineguild1.html

    Lots of Belgians do understand English, it is another matter with my friends from France. But they seem ok with your excellent subtitles.

    If you want to use part of this info on janestaffordtextiles.com, for French speakers, go ahead.

    #94584

    diannedavenport
    Participant

    Thank you for your response Jane. I think I understand what you are saying.  Have gotten the warp resleyed and have woven about half of the scarf I designed using only certain sequences from the sample. Will post a pic when it’s done. It now looks like the sample that is online. Trying to get it finished to show off for our Weaver’s Study Group at Yarnorama in Paige, Texas this Sunday. The majority of our group are members of your online guild and we have lots of discussions about what the latest session is teaching us and showing off our take on what you presented. I have learned so much since I joined in Jan.2019.

    #94492

    Jane
    Keymaster

    Hi Taty,

    That is a boo boo…there shouldn’t be a double 134/23…….and to answer your second question….I have no idea why I wrote it that way….probably because at some other time in this samples life…there was a different colour in the 4th stripe.   Sometimes I just shake my head at how I write things.   This is one of those times….it would have been so much easier to write it x 4…because it is 4 times….Oh well….it’s a good thing I can laugh at myself.  Sorry to have caused such confusion.  When Alastair gets back from holidays I’ll get him to redo the PDF.

     

     

    #94480

    Jane
    Keymaster

    Hi Dianne,

    If you are using a 10 dent reed you will have  2 ground threads in every dent.  When you get to the supplementary warps you just put the first one in with 2 previous ends and then your next supplementary warp goes in with the next bundle of 2 ground warps.  You will have 2 dents in a row that have 3 threads in them.  2 of them are grounds and one is a supp.

    Hope this helps.

    #94071

    Sandra
    Keymaster

    I don’t have this warp on my loom – yet 😉  However, if the two supplementary warps are threaded through two heddles, side by side – they should go through the reed that way so that they weave together.  Jane’s diagram of the Centre section shows them with other warp threads in the same dent in addition to the two regular warp threads.  She used 20 epi in a 10 dent reed so that’s the threading she shows us.  Basically you aren’t counting those threads in your cloth – they are floaters that come in and out when you need them.  They can be included in a dent with the PW threads.  Let me know if this helps.

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    #94067

    diannedavenport
    Participant

    supp weave

    I have tried two different ways. One gets the image I attached. This is not the warp I see in the video. The other crosses threads between the heddles and the reed. This second way creates raised threads. I am a visual type person. The more I try to decipher everything, the more I get confused. The diagram in the middle of the page of the pdf is not real clear as to where the supplementary threads come from and where they go to.

    #94058

    Sandra
    Keymaster

    Hi Theresa, I think I may have answered your question when I responded to Dianne, below.  Let me know if that helps.

    #94057

    Sandra
    Keymaster

    Hi, taty.lauwers – I’ve noted your question and will pass on your query to Jane when she is back in the studio tomorrow.

    #94055

    Sandra
    Keymaster

    I was just trying to reply to you under the episode thread, Dianne!  It seems like we’ve all had very busy weekends on the west coast and I’m just now looking at questions that came in on Friday.

    Did you follow Jane’s denting chart under the title Centre section in the middle of the draft page, right near the bottom? She shows you sleying the dent with one supplementary thread alone with necessary warp threads in two side by side dents.  Also, have you checked – just to make sure – that you don’t have a crossed thread between the heddle and the dent in the reed.  Just asking because it’s something I’ve had experience with 😉

    #94040

    diannedavenport
    Participant

    I’m going to try getting an answer here.  I cannot get the supplementary warp threads to warp correctly.  The threading is correct according to the diagram at the top of the page   442121212121212121332121212121212121. Each in its own heddle reading right to left and repeating this sequence from fuchsia to fuchsia.  Here is where I have problems. What exactly do you do with 3 and/or 4 when sleying the reed? I either get them separated by a couple of threads or because I cross them over the ground threads there are a supplementary thread and a ground thread sitting in the middle of the shed, which makes it almost impossible to pass a shuttle through.  I am probably overthinking this whole thing, but I cannot go on with my own project. The diagram on the pdf is confusing to me. I can send pictures of my original sample which shows separated supplementary threads because I changed the heddle threading. It worked but the two supplementary threads are separated by a couple of threads.  I would like for them to be next to each other like Jane’s sample. Help!

    #93272

    Sylvia
    Participant

    IMG_4437Watched the online guild and had to get a warp on the loom. This is such a nice weave structure. Going to have fun exploring. Using up some yarn.

     

    #93196

    theresahark
    Participant

    When I weave with all sups down, I get denting.  I have both supp warp threads in the same dent together.  Should I do that differently?

     

    #93082

    taty.lauwers
    Participant

    Great lesson once again. I am never disappointed. I also love the way Jane teaches low-tech (like no second back beam – yeah!) and no-fear: great for beginners and shy weavers.

    One question on pdf:  is detail of #23 correct? why twice 134/23?

    Second question: maybe I am not focused, but why in pdf warp colour sequence is ( 16 purple +2 limelight) * 3 + one repeat? why not *4?

    #92275

    Sandra
    Keymaster

    Is there no end to what you can do with 4 harnesses? Jane proves to us, once again, what dynamic, exciting cloth we can make with 4 – whether on a floor loom or a table loom. Start your journey towards a beautiful holiday gift to yourself!

    (The discussion on challenges with an older Louet David has been moved into a dedicated thread)

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