Season 3: Episode 6 – Simple Collapse Weave

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    • #80189
      Sandra
      Keymaster

        A whole lot of fun weaving heading our way this month!  Let us see what you create “playing” with Collapse Weave.

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      • #80206
        judy
        Participant

          Thanks Sandra,

          This looks great but I have the Harrisville yarn ready to go for the Double Weave Shawl listed on your site under the yarns for Episode 6. Has there been a change in the sample order?

          Judy

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          • #80207
            Ginette
            Keymaster

              Hi Judy,

              Oh so sorry about that! The original order is Episode 6 – Simple Collapse Weave & Episode 7 – Double Weave. We’ll get that changed today on that page.

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          • #80253
            jwhennessy
            Participant

              Thanks Judy for the question. I was expecting double weave too.

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            • #80309
              Nina Kennedy
              Participant

                Actually that brings up a question about the kits. I have been checking every so often to see what the yarn will be for the doubleweave episode coming next but have not seen anything about it – or any of the project yarns for episodes 7 and beyond. I’ve been thinking that I need to check my stash or order yarns for episode 7 but I don’t know what yarns will be used. If I am going to order the kits I’d like to order more than 1 at a time to save a little on postage to the US.

                Please let me know if I am not checking the right place on the website – so far I have been clicking on “Online Guild” then “Buy Season 3 kits”.

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              • #80317
                Nina Kennedy
                Participant

                  Thank you for the link to this list. I had not seen this page (Online Guild Season 3 Yarn List) before! Where is it in the categories on the website so I can find it again?

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                  • #80319
                    Nina Kennedy
                    Participant

                      Never mind – I found the list. I had never noticed it before. Thank you for sending me the link though!

                       

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                  • #80667
                    Beth Napper
                    Participant

                      I love the asymetrical bamboo and merino scarf. All my stash of bamboo is 7 gauge though and I also have Harrisville Shetland not merino. Would I still get the same collapsing if I used these 2 weights together? Perhaps bamboo at 12 epi and HS at 6 epi? Anyone tried this before? (I know, I know. Sample, sample!) I would be interested in any comments.

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                      • #83098
                        Susan Jaken
                        Participant

                          I also love this asymmetric style.  I’d like to substitute 20/2 or 30/2 silk for the tencel.  Jane uses 7G tencel sett at 20 epi instead of the 15 epi she uses with silk on the other scarves.  Is there a reason to increase the silk to 20 epi for this asymmetric pattern?

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                      • #81438
                        Betty.allen
                        Participant

                          I hope this is the correct place to ask this question.  I have some silk but I’m not sure the size.  Neither has a size on the cone.  One is similar to Jane’s 20/2 on her sample card.  Maybe a tad bigger.  The only information I have is 100 grams/1,000 yards.  The other is 20/2 according to the website I purchased from but is it actually a tad smaller than Jane’s  30/2.  So I’m confused.  Can I wrap a ruler and determine the correct size?  How many Wpi for 20/2 and 30/2?

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                          • #81463
                            Betty.allen
                            Participant

                              Guess I had a duh moment.  I thought to look at the charts Jane gave us.  It looks like one of the silks is 18/2 and one if I wrapped correctly is about 26/2,  It’s great to have the charts if I can just remember to refer to them.

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                          • #82059
                            Sue
                            Participant

                              Hi, I know I will only have time for one scarf and a sample but looking at the kits I presume half of each skein of silk and merino is used for each scarf. So I therefore need the whole yarn allowance even if I can only weave one scarf. Am I right?Thanks for helping.

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                              • #82060
                                Sandra
                                Keymaster

                                  You’re right, Sue. Mainly because you’ll want the interest of different colours to play with when you design your warp! Depending on your loom you will be loosing some warp in loom waste that isn’t shared by two scarves.

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                              • #82776
                                elmer.mary
                                Participant

                                  My first ever go at Collapse Weave ( and at contributing to the forum).   I’ve used 2/17 NM lambswool and 2/30 NM silk bourette.  It took over 15 mins ‘at the sink’ but really pleased with the final effect.

                                  Thanks for this workshop Jane.5021F2D6-8B1A-4A00-A637-01C44FAD7BE0F441182A-57CC-405C-86CF-5CEB22757A635645EB33-6B11-490A-BB1D-AAC80A0EECCF

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                                  • #83075
                                    Ginette
                                    Keymaster

                                      So beautiful Mary, the colours work so well together. I like your repetitive sequences!

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                                  • #82875
                                    Clare
                                    Participant

                                      pink side

                                      Loved the kit colors and am so thrilled with my first foray into weaving with silk—the irridescence and saturation is just gorgeous. I could probably go further with the fulling- it is only lightly ruched at this point. I made only one scarf but am eager to do more!

                                      purple side

                                       

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                                      • #83074
                                        Ginette
                                        Keymaster

                                          Stunning Clare! I like the amount of fulling you did.

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                                          • #83370
                                            Clare
                                            Participant

                                              Thanks Ginette~ It was slightly damp when I took the photos and after it had fully dried it became much more crepey. Beautiful draft!

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                                        • #83330
                                          sharikalb
                                          Participant

                                            I am ready to do the fulling process on my scarf and I wonder if it is okay to “throw” the scarf the way I do when making nuno felt scarves. Otherwise the process seems similar.

                                             

                                             

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                                          • #84690
                                            Debra
                                            Participant

                                              Good morning! I finished my collapsed weave scarf and while most of the weaving turned out fine, there were several areas where the warp appears very loose and almost coming apart. This happened in several sections of the scarf and is consistent across the warp in that section. By looking at my photo can you tell if I wove it very loosely for that section and then suddenly made my warp tighter without knowing the “damage” that I had done? This happened in 2 sections of my scarf – for about 4 inches each time.

                                              Or was it not fulled in those sections? I’m going to start another kit so any advice is appreciated.

                                              thank you – Debra

                                              purplescarf

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                                              • #84713
                                                Ginette
                                                Keymaster

                                                  Hi Debra, it does look like those sections were woven more opened and the warp was looser, especially if they are in 4 inch sections, when you may have advanced your warp? You’re fulling looks good though. I would pull on both sides of the scarf to realign the silk threads to help them straighten out.

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                                                  • #84719
                                                    Debra
                                                    Participant

                                                      Thank you for your answer! I was having a little trouble with the warp tension – and now that I see what the end result could be, I”ll be especially attentive on my next one.

                                                      Debra

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                                                • #85758
                                                  cfremming
                                                  Participant

                                                    The first of 2 scarves. I used natural Merino/Silk and Tsumugi Silk.

                                                    20190820_135428-COLLAGE

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                                                  • #85831
                                                    cfremming
                                                    Participant

                                                      Scarf #2 the weft is hand dyed Tsumugi Silk only.
                                                      20190821_112203-COLLAGE

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                                                    • #85962
                                                      Jacqueline
                                                      Participant

                                                        Your scarves are lovely. The Tsumugi silk is really beautiful.

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                                                      • #86381
                                                        Virginia
                                                        Participant

                                                          In the”at the table” section of the Collapse Weave videos, you said you gave the sample a “light press”.  When I tried that on a sample, it creased all the ruching.  Now I’ve finished my scarf and not sure what to do.  Thanks for your help!

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                                                          • #87151
                                                            Ginette
                                                            Keymaster

                                                              Hi Virginia,

                                                              You could try ironing just the wool part and not the ruched sections. That’s what I’ve done with mine and it worked out. I just used the tip of the iron for those parts.

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                                                          • #87334
                                                            Janet
                                                            Participant

                                                              Just wound on my warp – I’m using the kit yarn.  I warp back to front and the wool threads are much shorter at the front of the loom than the silk – I guess because of the springiness.  I’ve decided not to worry about it – just tie it on and do the best I can to get even tension.  Anyone else have this experience (I’m determined not to call it a problem).  Love seeing what everyone has done!

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                                                              • #87353
                                                                Sandra
                                                                Keymaster

                                                                  Did you wind it on a warping board or mill?  The silk shouldn’t stretch and your ends should be relatively even when you are ready to tie-on.  My tension isn’t always perfect in the warp itself, and sometimes I have some unevenness because I work to get an even tension winding on.  Hmmm ……..  how much difference are you talking about?  Inches or a foot?????

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                                                                  • #87423
                                                                    Janet
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      Many inches – not a foot.  I used a warping board – I’m used to some unevenness (an inch here and there max).  I have a feeling I stretched the wool when I was winding the warp and it tightened up when I took it off the warping board.  I’m going to carry on and see what happens.  As Jane says, “don’t worry.  Have fun”

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                                                                      • #87424
                                                                        Sandra
                                                                        Keymaster

                                                                          You’ll be fine – keep us posted!

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                                                                  • #88573
                                                                    sharikalb
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      I have an example of how too much fulling can ruin the scarf. I tried “throwing” the way I do when felting but it was too much.

                                                                       

                                                                      Collapse Weave-1Collapse Weave-2

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                                                                    • #91132
                                                                      Debra
                                                                      Participant

                                                                        My second scarf turned out so much better than the first. Tension on the warp seemed loose, but I kept on weaving. Fulled it for about 6 minutes and could have perhaps done a minute longer. But it’s absolutely soft and delicate. The (kit) color is wonderful. It’s hard to capture in a photo – but here’s an attempt. Debra

                                                                        collapsedweave

                                                                         

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                                                                      • #91227
                                                                        Janet
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          I’m using the kit yarn – can anyone give me an idea how much length you lose when you full it?  Trying to figure out how long to weave my first scarf.  Thanks!

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                                                                          • #91357
                                                                            Ginette
                                                                            Keymaster

                                                                              Hi Janet,

                                                                              I believe you can weave around 85-90″ per scarf but hopefully someone who’s woven it recently can give you some of their dimensions and suggestions. In the meantime you might want to have another peak Lesson 3.6.1 -designing collapse fabrics, 3.6.1, 26:35 – Jane talks about the shrinkage from on the loom to washed.

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                                                                          • #93893
                                                                            sofsthun
                                                                            Participant

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                                                                            • #94024
                                                                              Janet
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                Any tips for softening up the silk after the scarf is finished?  It’s really stiff.  I did rinse with a little vinegar, but that doesn’t seem to have helped.

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