Season 3: Episode 2 – Cramming and Denting

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    Ginette
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    • Weaving wonder

    Hi Taty,

    I like your idea of adding empty dents between the crammed & opened areas and changing your setts. That might just help to define each section a bit more.  The rosepath pattern is really beautiful in your samples and how it gives texture! Did you get a chance to give it a gentle brushing?

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    taty.lauwers
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    • Weaving wonder

    Hi all
    and thanks Jane for a very nice video.
    I have done a very small first sample for cramming and denting. First pictures and first question below.
    Warp mohair handspun singles yarn is 15wpi (6t/cm).
    I sleyed  in my one and only 10dent reed (standard with Louet Jane in Belgium):
    * 20 epi (8f/cm) i.e. 2 per dent for my 0,8 inch  (2cm) crammed areas.
    * 7 epi, i.e. 1011 in same reed for the open area, width : 0,8 inch  (2cm)
    * and 5 epi for the very open area, width : 0,8 inch  (2cm)

    This makes for a very narrow warp that is 0,8″ crammed – 0,8″ open – 0,8″ crammed – 0,8″ very open – 0,8″ crammed. I did not reduce to half density at outer selvedges since it is a sample (Jane’s advice for nice selvedges in the video). I washed the sample and agitated them as usual (let’s say : « half fulling »)

    I have used the same mohair as weft :
    * 18 pp i for medium areas (I could not make it 20 ppi with beater)
    * 7-8 ppi for open areas
    * 5 ppi for very open areas
    Warp is my standard rosepath one (I attach new stuff to the old one). I have used mainly 1234 but I tried some plain weave too. I did not aim for squares.

    I made a picture with strong contrast for you to see better (mohair is washed, half fulled, not brushed yet, not pressed) :

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    I like the overall effect of a pseudo lace, I like the texture of “stitches”, but even the very open area on the right has mish-mashed with crammed area : we cannot see a clear definition as in your scarves. Whereas such a very open one I expected to show up contrast with crammed area.

    Since it is wool, I can understand I think how it moves. I will have to resley the rest of the warp with 20 epi for all crammed areas and 5 epi for open areas. (I still have 4″ of warp free). I am thinking of leaving one or two free dents between each transition, i.e. between crammed and open areas, so that I can get a clear definition.

    Have you any other idea ? Thanks
    Or maybe I was totally absent minded and did not follow the instructions. Can happen!

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    taty.lauwers
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    • Weaving wonder

    thanks Ginette, but then why not write the usual “11 ppi” or “13 ppi”? anything special there?

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    Sandra
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    Great news, Ruth and great advice from your learned and shared experience!

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    Ruth Johnson
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    • Weaving wizard

    I am happy to report I successfully managed to weave with linen on my 1974 leclerc jack loom!! It was a bit tricky and after breaking 4 different warp threads through my trial and errors I would offer the following suggestions to anyone else: don’t torque down your warp but rather keep it on the loose side. This requires a little more attention when throwing the shuttle but its easier than fixing a broken thread! Also be very careful not to “misthrow” the shuttle as the jamming can cause breaking. I also cut off and retied my warp between each piece. It just worked better than weighting with a rod. The end product was well worth it!

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    Ginette
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    • Weaving wonder

    Hi Taty,

    You’ll be weaving 28 picks and aim for about 2 1/8″ in total.

    Ginette

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    taty.lauwers
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    • Weaving wonder

    Hi! can anyone pls explain the second table & last column of Season-3-Episode-2-Redenting-sample-1-1.pdf
    I can understand the first one: weave 2 inches with 24 ppi, then supersquish for 1/2 inch etc
    The second table I cannot understand “28 2 1/8ish”
    thanks

    screen copy to refresh memories:

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    Nina Kennedy
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    • Weaving wonder

     

    Thank you for the idea about checking the hardware store for steel rods – for some reason it didn’t occur to me that these would be in hardware stores! I’ll have to check my local store.

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    Jacqueline
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    Hi Nina, I noticed the steel rods at the local hardware store. I am in Canada and I was at a Home Hardware. They had them in different lengths/thicknesses. Not sure if this will solve the problem but a steel rod would be heavier than a similarly wooden dowel. I am not quite at that point yet in my weaving. Hope that helps.

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    Nina Kennedy
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    Am weaving along doing the cramming and denting linen project and loving the linen. The only problem I am having is that the open sections of the warp have become loose (as Jane said they would) so I weighted the open warps with a rod and fishing weights (as per her instructions in the video). However it is not helping. The warp is still quite loose in the open parts even though I added more weights. It is becoming seriously distorted. I am wondering if this is because I had to use a wooden dowel instead of a steel rod as I do not have an extra steel rod for my loom. Do you think this is why the loose warps are not behaving? Where does one get an extra steel rod anyway?

     

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    Michelle
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    914A5DF1-7CE3-4D7D-B71F-69D81FA4783C1F856032-B4DC-4D30-B93D-A8E48BDC2FC9CBD59D72-DE24-423E-8843-D91AD3A9B6D827AA0F2B-5C15-4847-A4D4-F99B2A2DA2D8I absolutely loved working with the linen! The sheen and the texture just made me so happy as I was weaving. I used linen weft for two of the scarves and one shorter sample piece and silk weft in old man’s beard for the other scarf. IMG_1893

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    I have a question about finishing the linen projects.  I haven’t started weaving it yet (work commitments) but I was wondering if finishing the linen was any different from finishing cotton?

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    Charlene
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    • Weaving weeble

    A bit behind – just did a warp for Episode 1 Season 3  and wove that with 2/16.  Then thought I would resley and try the crammed and dented and thought I would try the second re sley – If you follow denting as written it turns out to be 5 1/3 inches.  If you change the 2 to a dent to 1 to a dent to get to ep1 12 – you have 9″ in the reed.   Is that correct?

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    Jacqueline
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    • Weaving wonder

    Your blue scarf is beautiful Jacqueline.

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    Jacqueline
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    Really enjoyed this episode.  I used 2/16 cotton for both warp and weft in two shades of blue from my stash.  I will look out for linen that Jane uses, but I couldn’t easily source it in the UK.  Since taking this photograph, I have twisted the fringe which gives it a much nicer finish.  Woven on my Louet David 2 and I didn’t have any tension issues as I only warped enough for a sample and the scarf.  6E99573C-A6E3-42B3-8CEF-A5AFC8DAB06B3063A7D3-66AF-4117-8A38-8F0E548624EA

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