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March 10, 2018 at 8:11 am #41802
We’ll move the discussion on the gamp into this thread to keep it all together!
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March 14, 2018 at 7:59 pm #41812
I just took my time getting things ready, and today got a start weaving. Very happy. I just love this class!
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March 14, 2018 at 11:56 pm #41816
Loved weaving this sample gamp. There are a couple of errors, but heh ho it’s a sample🤪
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March 15, 2018 at 12:10 am #41817
I have placed small squares of masking tape with the weaving/warping sequence on the appropriate sections.🇬🇧
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March 15, 2018 at 5:30 am #41819
Your sampler turned out great !
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March 15, 2018 at 8:39 am #41824
Love that you added an extra section to visually remind yourself of the Log Cabin effect in D/L, Jacqueline.
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March 15, 2018 at 2:58 pm #41849
I’m so confused about the warping math. I’ve only used the warping board 3 or 4 times with very simple one color warps, and I always have to remind myself that a complete circuit of the board actually produces 2 ends, from starting peg, 6 yards up and around the cross, and 6 yards back down to the starting peg. But, when faced with instructions for 44 holding 4 threads in the hand, I divided 44/4=11 and did 11 circuits getting, I realized too late, 88 ends, which is where it sits, waiting for me to cut out and toss a bunch of yarn.
As I look ahead at the rest of the warp instructions, I see next 45 ends, by holding 3 threads in hand. Heck (as Jane might say), anyone can see that 45 divided by 3 is 15, so 15 circuits holding 3 threads. Easy-peas—whoops! Forgot again that each circuit equals 2 ends, but 15/2=7.5. Not sure what to do with the .5 half circuit. Do I just tie that group off up at the cross, then tie on the next group back down at the usual start peg?
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Maureen Janda.
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March 15, 2018 at 7:16 pm #41862
Hi Maureen,
Yes, you would cut the three threads at the cross end and tie the next (apricot), you’ll end up again after your 4 apricot at the top so cut and tie the next sequence at cross end. As what to do with the ones that you put on extra, if your loom is wide enough you could leave them in and have one nice extra wide section for this sequence. I’ve done this a few too many times in the past and what I’ve done is round up extra hands in the house, each grab a cone and start winding the cones simultaneously while taking them off the warping board. It’s a bit of a chore, but we’ve had some good laughs doing it. Usually the laughs are at my expense 😉
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March 16, 2018 at 4:59 am #41872
I had the same query as Maureen. Why would the draft use 45 ends and not 48 which saves having to cut at the cross. What difference would it make apart from being wider?
Would love an answer Ginette.
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March 16, 2018 at 11:16 am #41879
Hi Kids,
The sequences in the Colour and Design Gamp are simply ‘sequences’ and not all sequences in weaving have an even number nor do you have to repeat them a certain number of times to make them an even number. It doesn’t matter if they start at the top or the bottom because each length is its own individual length. The bottom is one end of the warp and the top is the other. When I am warping with 3 ends in my hand I count by 3’s no matter where I start. If I am starting and the bottom it is 3 up, then 6 at the bottom, 9 up top, 12 at the bottom, 15 up top (and if I only want 5 repeats of that sequence then I end it there and move on to the next sequence. You could also go back to the warping videos in Season 1 Episode 1 and watch how I do this.
Let me know if this makes sense,
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March 16, 2018 at 1:19 pm #41881
I have wound my warp for all sections up to the last one. So far, this method of warping with multiple threads has helped me “stretch” quite a bit! HAH! I’ve reviewed the video in season 1 episode 1. I’m stuck on proceeding with the last section and 5 ends. How did others get this done please? What advice about this many threads Jane?
Thanks!
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March 16, 2018 at 1:36 pm #41883
Hi Martha,
I took these 2 pictures of the yarn in my hands for the last section.
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March 16, 2018 at 1:43 pm #41884
I am laughing so hard my sides hurt…..are they big enough pictures for you? I was feeling so proud of myself posting my first pictures. Too funny.
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March 17, 2018 at 9:13 am #41908
LOL Jane. It is good to have BIG pictures so we don’t have to squint but should you wish to make smaller pics in the future, if you click on the picture you can drag the corners smaller. ;D
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March 17, 2018 at 10:37 am #41913
Hah! Thanks so much! Oh yes – the photos are large enough for my old eyes to see well! Hahah!
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March 16, 2018 at 4:42 pm #41897
Thanks, Jane, for your reply. I’m done! Maybe cutting off and tossing a big pile of yarn has drilled into me that it’s 2 ends to a total circuit. I toyed with the idea of trying to save that bit and using it for the later 44 end group. All I’d need to do is remove one white thread and replace it with a dark one – or maybe it was the other way around. But I came to my senses and gave myself an early St. Patrick’s Day gift and tossed the whole lot.
Things I’ve learned: it may not be fun, but it saves on the shoulders, so it’s worth getting comfortable with it; find some nice smooth shoeboxes without external flaps and folds that catch every thread; likewise replace the knitting needles with dowels cut to fit the boxes that hopefully won’t catch every thread; if you don’t replace the knitting needles, TURN THE POINTS AWAY FROM YOU; and remember that Jane said not to go too fast or you’ll be sorry, because I did, and I was.
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March 17, 2018 at 6:47 am #41907
Hello to all,
I had a problem beaming on this warp and I’m wondering if anyone else had the same issue? My problem is that I ended up with quite a few threads twisting on each other. Any ideas why this might have happened? Not all sections of the gamp had twisted ends I used a paddle for some of the sections and these were ok. Any ideas? I ended up cutting off the gamp and my first tea towel to untwist some threads. I also added a repeat of the first section at the end of the gamp to make the towels wider.
Thank you
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March 18, 2018 at 12:18 am #41932
Hi, How can I remover my posts? If I cannot, would upu please remove the March ten post, not relevant…thank you!
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March 18, 2018 at 9:42 am #41940
First sampler done, small navyblue piece of twill inbetween, next one with alternating turqoise cotolin and orange cotton.
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March 18, 2018 at 10:17 am #41942
Beautiful Jacqueline, and it looks like you are having fun!
Your post of March 10th might be helpful to some – it was “caught” in the move of posts when I moved posts to one thread on the Colour and Weave Gamp. If you still want me to delete it – I will, but I don’t see a problem. You were showing us how you divided up a huge cone of blue yarn to prepare for your sample.
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March 18, 2018 at 1:05 pm #41949
Hi Sandra, Thanks, Yes this is fun, I have learned a lot allready, especially how to do things more easy. Ok if you leave the post where it is!
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March 18, 2018 at 1:10 pm #41950
The adventure continues. I’m threading heddles and I’ve gotten to the DDDD/LLLL section, and I discovered I warped it backwards as LLLL/DDDD. I’m afraid I heard Jane’s example in the video where she mentions as an example starting with LL, so I did that, ignoring that the pattern started with DD and that she started with DD when showing the lease sticks.
Is this a big problem? Can I just weave LLLL/DDDD and it’ll turn out OK?
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March 19, 2018 at 9:30 am #41980
I’ve got a question about sett. I would like to use some of my warp to make a wrap/shawl along the lines of the gamp shown in the first season. I remember Jane saying that is was woven in 8/4 cotton at a sett of 12. She described it as being like “buttah” the drape was so exceptional. Is it possible to get the same drape with 8/2 cotton? I did a version of 8/2 sett at 12 on the asymmetry sample and with carefully placing the picks to get a balanced cloth the selvedge on one side came out pretty wonky. For all of its sheerness it wasn’t really wearable to my mind. The best beat at that sett was 14-15. Would I add 12 and 15 and divide by two to get a balanced cloth that would work? Many thanks in advance!
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March 19, 2018 at 9:41 am #41982
Hi Clare,
yes, you’re process is correct. It’ll give you 13.5 but might as well sett it at 14. Put a bit more length on your warp when you make it so you can sample a bit first. If the sample doesn’t turn out for you, then you can always resley to a different sett and still have enough to make your shawl.
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March 19, 2018 at 9:48 am #41984
Thanks Ginette, for that quick response! Do you think that using, say, 8/2 tencel in the weft might improve the overall wearability as a shawl? Even at the proper sett I’m not convinced that cotton on cotton is going to have the proper finish. What do you think?
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March 19, 2018 at 9:58 am #41985
I’ve woven at 16 epi with 2/8 cotton as warp & weft and I liked that quite a bit, makes it drapy and still a good piece of cloth for a shawl. As for tencel, I’ve only woven once (as weft) with it along with the 2/8 cotton (as warp) and they seemed to behave the same. Maybe someone else has more experience with it. I’ve also done it with bambu 7 which I really liked that effect. I would definitely do some sampling.
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March 19, 2018 at 9:59 am #41986
Thank you so much- I shall try a few things and let you know the outcome!
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March 20, 2018 at 2:05 pm #42028
Sample two is done! Another enjoyable weaving experience. I needed to get some tea towels done so I didn’t change the sett on this one and made 6 towels. The only problem I had was I had several twisted threads not sure why. If anyone has any ideas I’d love to hear them.
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March 20, 2018 at 2:40 pm #42030
Looking great, Michelle!
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March 20, 2018 at 4:28 pm #42040
This is only my second time using a floor loom ! I love this opportunity to be part of this guild and the format works wonderful for me.
I really enjoyed weaving this gamp. I think would be fun to do again. I wish I had used floating selvedges. I know I could have added them and will keep that in mind for the next time.
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March 21, 2018 at 6:54 am #42054
My gamp will get a little bigger (-: cause I use handspun yarn I think it will be a fine blanket
I love to discover all the “new” patterns which come out
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March 21, 2018 at 7:02 am #42055
What a beautiful way to use your handspun. I want to weave with my handspun as well. Going to review using a dummy warp.
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March 21, 2018 at 2:29 pm #42074
So much fun! My gamp is the the beginning of my own Color-and-Weave library. I am still working on this warp but I just had to cut and finish this bits to see how my weft variations are behaving. So far I love them all! I introduced 8/2 tencel to the weft, a combo of 2/20 white cotton and chocolate 5/2 perle cotton and a section with 2/14 Alpaca/Silk.
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March 21, 2018 at 2:31 pm #42075
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March 21, 2018 at 2:39 pm #42076
Thank you to the person who posted the following in regards to the DDDD/LLLL warping: “wind two ends DD, followed by warping with 4 ends in your hand of DDLL, ending with 2 ends LL”
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March 30, 2018 at 7:58 am #42380
I’m planning on warping this gamp with 8/2 cotton but would like to try using 8/2 wool for the weft for a section of the 8 yards I’ll be putting on. I read the following on the helpline…”You can use cotton and wool together with no problems if you alternate them end on end or pick and pick. You can also make one your warp and one your weft. When you combine them this way they move together as they full. Coverlets were often done this way. Cotton was used for the warp and tabby weft and wool was the pattern weft. The alternating business keeps eveything moving together.”
My question is, Would I still use a sett of 18 or do I need to open up the sett more so that the wool will bloom? And if so, what sett should I try?
Thanks
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March 30, 2018 at 10:21 am #42382
You aren’t going to like this, tbrickerbrac but I’m going to throw the word “sample” at you 😉 Your sett would depend on the actual wool yarn you are using and how it’s spun. Have you done a ruler wrap with the yarns you plan to use? That, however, won’t totally give you your answer because you want the weft to really open up in fulling.
Some 8/2 wool is very tightly spun and is used for the hard wear of upholstery or even used in tapestry to hold it’s shape in the design. If you did a sample at the 18 epi of the gamp making sure that your pics are squared, you could full it the way Jane’s suggests in the item on the Helpline to see if that’s what you want. If not, open it up to see if it needs more room to full the way you want it to. You aren’t going to really know unless actually try. I love the idea and look forward to you sharing your experiments with this idea.
Anyone else tried cotton and wool???
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March 31, 2018 at 8:45 am #42400
I’ve got M. Brassard’s 2/8 Blue Mountain 100% wool for the weft. Since it already looks much “fatter” than the 2/8 cotton Im using for the warp I think I will need to start with a sett of 12.
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March 30, 2018 at 11:10 am #42383
I just finished a throw with 8/4 cotton rug warp and Shetland wool weft. I was’t sure it would work so I did weave a test area befor I decided. I wet finished and twisted fring this morning. It has amazing drape. It is what I call Gamp Gone Wrong. I got so very confused with winding multiple strands on the warping board. So long story short it was all wrong. However, I could t waste the 8 yard warp and decided to experiment with different weaving. I’ll try to send a pic. I. Very happy to know the wool and cotton play well together.
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March 30, 2018 at 11:30 am #42385
Here are a couple of pics. The red one is with wool weft. The wine color is 8/4 Rug warp and same colors as warp. I haven’t wet finished the cotton. I still have 2 plus yards on loom to weave. And I’m embarrassed 😩 to say that I have that much left and ready to warp in lighter colors. As I said earlier I was very confused . But it was certainly a learning process.
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March 30, 2018 at 11:57 am #42386
<p style=”text-align: left;”>Which bring up another question. The fringe looks hideous with the red color in the wool used for weft. Could I…..take a long strand of red wool and weave in long strands where the fringe is, to show the red color incorporated in the fringe. Does that make sense.
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March 31, 2018 at 10:05 am #42401
I understand what you are thinking of doing for your “barber pole” section of your fringe but I wonder how stable it would be. That often happens with fringes, depending on your warp threading, I wouldn’t worry about it. No one is going to look at it and say what a horrible blanket – will you just look at that “hideous” fringe section. That privilege is left to us – the weaver! Soon, you will find that you will see the whole blanket and not even see the wee part that is irritating you now. It’s beautiful – kudos to you!
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March 31, 2018 at 10:12 am #42402
tbrickerbrac – I look forward to seeing and reading about your sampling as you progress with your blanket.
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April 7, 2018 at 9:14 am #42647
Hi there,
i have just finished the colour and weave gamp and very excited to discover all those patterns ! I mostly weave using 2/30 silk and so I did the gamp with a 30 epi sett. Having been inspired by Jane’s advice on loosening up I’m going to resley the warp and weave at 24 epi. That’s what my pick rate was on the 30 epi setting. Should make a big difference to the drape and be balanced hopefully 🤞Apologies for rather poor photo 😩
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April 12, 2018 at 5:27 pm #42804
I increased the width of the warp by adding two additional D/L sequences and wound a 7 1/2 yard warp. I wove a tea-towel sized gamp that I cut off to use as a guide for the patterns I wanted to use for the remaining warp. I then wove five more tea towels, each different from the other. I stayed with the same colours after trialing some others that I didn’t think looked as good as the originals. Perhaps if I had had them in the warp they would have looked better. I did find the selvages a bit of a challenge.
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May 25, 2018 at 5:07 am #44262
I love your color choice.
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April 14, 2018 at 10:42 am #42846
Oh my gosh, these are all so wonderful! I wound up having hand surgery several weeks ago and am now woefully behind. I’m finally warping up the loom for the color and weave gamp. I hope I’m able to catch up! meanwhile, I’ve been watching and reading.
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April 19, 2018 at 5:18 am #42959
These are beautiful! I particularly like the blanket.
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April 19, 2018 at 5:23 am #42960
And here are the tea towels I made. I used a smaller warp this time and ended up with 7. I’m still deciding which of the small patterns I like the best. I particularly liked the striped tea towels.
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April 15, 2018 at 5:47 pm #42878
I used this gamp mostly as an exploration of different wefts but had some fun with treadling, too.
After weaving the original draft, I did a stripe sample (my favourite, I think) and then re-did the gamp and treadled twill. My big lesson here was that no matter how obvious I might think the break between the two samples is always put in a shot of contrasting weft – the first twill sample ended up as the hem on my striped one. Oops.
It was fun to see the subtle differences in pattern with the two treadlings, but what was most interesting for me was the difference in drape. Same sett, same threading, same weft, totally different fabric.
I tried a bunch of different wefts from my stash but nothing really grabbed my imagination so I re-sleyed this warp to 12 epi and started to play again. I had some grey mercerized knitting cotton from the thrift store that turned out to be exactly the same size as 4/8 cotton. It made a very nice fabric that I think would be suitable for something like a baby blanket. Next sample was with a vintage bobbin of Quebecois and a bit of Harrisville for a very serviceable lap blanket. Without Jane’s encouragement to be brave, I never would have thought to try a wool weft on a cotton warp but it totally worked. The cotton fringe looked a little sad so I augmented it with a strand of wool and it looked much better.
Finally, I cut off all but the three centre stripes and wove with 2/8 cotton weft for a lightweight scarf. I loved this fabric, and wished that I could have made the scarf longer but alas, that was the end of the warp.
I’m ready for some springtime colours, and am really (really) hoping there won’t be snow under the clothesline for the next sample!
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April 17, 2018 at 12:53 pm #42918
Absolutely wonderful set of samples, Jean! I’ve still got some warp left on my Colour and Weave and looking forward to a day of weaving tomorrow before we get tempted with the colours of Parrot! Sorry you still have snow or, should I say – snow again.
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April 18, 2018 at 10:19 am #42930
Thanks, Sandra. I promised myself that I would treat the Guild episodes as homework assignments and I am having so much fun using “homework” to avoid “housework”!
As I consider all of the possibilities from a single warp I am having flashes of the von Trapp family in the Sound of Music where all of the children were wearing outfits made from curtains. Rather than curtains, everything I make comes from one very long warp and I end up making a top that matches the blanket and rug and bath towel and tea towel and placemats and scarf and curtains….☺
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April 18, 2018 at 4:19 pm #42943
Would love to see your top Jean with all the matching wares!
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April 19, 2018 at 11:38 am #42991
Thanks, Moira. I like the stripes, too.
I would like to try this gamp in an analogous colourway. I’m not so keen on the high contrast patterns needed to illustrate the colour and weave effects, but two shades of green or a blue and a green or maybe some browns or.. or.. or… would give a real interest and depth of colour to a fabric. But now we are on to the next sample and once again my head is almost exploding after watching what Jane does with “Parrot”! Too many ideas, not enough time!
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April 22, 2018 at 5:40 pm #43137
My hand is nearly completely healed from surgery and I was finally able to finish my project. I really enjoyed this gamp! I wove two towels after the gamp, one using a bright orange zinger and the other adding a pale blue in the weft. I laid this on my sofa, which is why it looks a bit bumpy/wavy. This is straight off the loom.
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April 24, 2018 at 7:25 am #43187
Hand spun blankie in 3 panels —color weave, assymetry and division of space. I think I’ll full it a bit more
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April 24, 2018 at 11:04 am #43193
That is Wonderful ! how did you seam them together, and what did your blanket with?
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April 24, 2018 at 11:58 am #43201
Hi Ellen,
Seams were a challenge because the wool was hand spun singles and they fulled differently. I used a needle threaded with the dark colored wool and caught a loop from each selvedge. Does that make sense? I butted them together and then just went alternating rows from one to the other. I wasn’t as tedious as it sounds. Turned out pretty well and with some additional fulling and a bit of brushing it will be fine. Very soft.
Mary
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April 24, 2018 at 12:06 pm #43202
the joining sounds great ! I’m a hand spinner as well, and hope to use the yarns in weaving blankets. Would like to weave 3 blankets one each for my kids. Got a wonderful book recommended by L. Waddington. The author is Jean Wilson. “Joinings, Edges, and Trims” So many options.
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April 30, 2018 at 4:54 pm #43460
After a few miss steps I finally got my warp on and have started weaving. However when I measured the width in the reed it was only 18.5 in ches instead of 19.25. This is before weaving so no draw in yet. I have checked number of threads and they are correct. It took a couple of attempts to get the 1,2,1 threading accurate and I think I’m pretty close. It is a metric reed so that could be it. Just curious as Jane uses a louet spring with I’m assuming metric reeds. Very excited to see the patterns as they unfold. Been hampered with knee injury so very frustrated and trying to catch up
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April 30, 2018 at 7:12 pm #43462
Hi Geraldine,
I think it’ll be fine but just wondering, what is the reed size you are using?
Ginette
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May 2, 2018 at 9:28 pm #435550
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May 3, 2018 at 4:29 am #43564
That looks wonderful! I like that detail you did.
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May 3, 2018 at 4:21 pm #43573
Thanks! I actually had a lot more fun on this warp than I thought I would. I need to order the next 2 kits but am going to order some extra colors as it seems like that is what is the most fun for me.
This was my first warp on my new to me Ideal which I am finding to be possibly my favorite loom, although there are things I love on ,y Standard as well.
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May 3, 2018 at 7:11 pm #43578
I wove a conventional sample at a sett of 18 and then opened it up to 15. The shawl has 5/2 bamboo as weft and the towel used leftover bobbins of 8/2. Love the patterning!
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May 3, 2018 at 7:15 pm #43579
Bet the drape with the cotton and bamboo is wonderful
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May 6, 2018 at 5:03 pm #43644
I finally finished with this warp. I wove my original sample by weaving the warp sequence twice. This will be a table runner. Next I rethreaded to 15 epi and wove dish towels with boucle. I love the boucle towels. So far I just like to look at them. Not sure when I will let anyone use them…..
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May 14, 2018 at 11:25 am #43944
Those turned out great !
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May 14, 2018 at 9:44 am #43943
Here’s a scarf I wove using the color and weave Gamp using black and grey Zephyr for both warp and weft. I used 3 blocks that I liked from the gamp and used both grey and black to weave blocks at one end of the scarf and then wove the rest with just the black
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May 14, 2018 at 11:26 am #43945
Wonderful scarf ! What did you sett the Zepher at?
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May 14, 2018 at 1:31 pm #43954
I set the Zephyr for the scarf at 20 epi
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May 14, 2018 at 4:17 pm #43957
Thank you, bet it’s nice and drapey.
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May 20, 2018 at 12:35 pm #44125
Another set of towels from leftover warp. This is the last of my warp. I’ll not bore you with details as to why I had this warp. Mainly because I can’t remember what exactly I did wrong in the first place but I did make use of the leftover. I also wove a summer throw not pictured. As you can see there is a pile of color catchers (25 to be exact) I washed the towels 3 times and did get lots of red out but am disappointed in the bleeding. I did not use Jane’s yarn but from another company, which may be my last. It was still fun weaving. It’s a horrible photo but some were woven with a boucle type yarn, which I loved. Betty
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May 20, 2018 at 1:29 pm #44126
How disappointing to have all that bleeding, Betty! Hopefully, it will eventually stop and you won’t have wash these items carefully 😔 The warp does look like it was fun to weave – do you have a photo of your summer throw?
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May 24, 2018 at 1:49 pm #44237
Here are my finished products. I love the colors — blue and yellow are my favorites — but I especially love all the patterns.
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May 24, 2018 at 7:29 pm #44248
Looking great, MaryAnn!
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May 31, 2018 at 4:53 am #44477
This gamp was fascinating to weave, seeing what delicate patterns were going to emerge and how they changed their look with a change of colour. I wove the first 3 gamps at 18 then took the warp down to 12. I used a fine ish dark blue flecked wool with a lighter blue boucle. I was really pleased with the finished article ( table runner). Finally chose a small patterned square at 16 which will form part of a banner to advertise our weaving group’s new name when we have our local exhibition next month.
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May 31, 2018 at 4:56 am #44478
your table runner is wonderful !
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May 31, 2018 at 7:20 am #44484
Beautiful, Sue! It’s nice to see you finding things on your gamp that you have already seen a future for 😉
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June 5, 2018 at 6:08 am #44759
After finishing my Colour and weave gamp I tried one in twill, not exact in the same way but also with a different amount of dark and light threads, blending from one colour to the other (orange red to orange, yellow, light green to darkgreen) The first towel followed in the weft colours the wrap. In the other four towels I played with stripes
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June 22, 2018 at 4:40 pm #45261
I absolutely loved weaving this. It was amazing to see the patterns emerge.
Since my loom was already set up for twill, I did the entire gamp in it for the second half. The patterns were interesting but didn’t wow me as much as the plain weave.
It was great to see the plain weave patterns emerge. I can’t wait to apply some of these to other projects!
I went with the suggested navy and white for the sample itself, but changed to a dark purple weft for the rest of the warp. I wanted to make a shawl/scarf.
For some of the solid areas I used a light purple in place of white the effect is subtle. It’s interesting but my husband insists it looks very blue to him while I see the purple more
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June 23, 2018 at 8:22 am #45272
Good on you Kelly for trying it in twill as well! This gives you a whole new take on the possibilities. The plain weave is something else, it just amazed me when I wove it what you can do with just the colour effects. I often refer to this gamp when I’m designing towels in plain weave and love it.
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June 23, 2018 at 7:25 pm #45285
Here’s a poncho I wove from my hand spun alpaca for our annual Weaver’s Challenge. The Gamp from Episode 4 came to the rescue for designing my piece. Thanks , JST.
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August 2, 2018 at 5:08 pm #47017
This lesson was awesome! I learned soooo much!
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August 7, 2018 at 7:47 am #47139
I’m in the planning stages for the Color and Weave Gamp and my main choice is between my 2 looms. I have a 32″ Ashford Rigid Heddle, which would work for width, but the highest number of dents per inch I can get is 15. My other option is to use my 15.75″ weaving width LeClerc Dorothy Table Loom on which I would have to do a double width cloth. I do have a 12 dent reed for the Dorothy.
I would like to hear some input on which loom you would choose to use. Each poses problems. I’m concerned the 15 dent reed will be too loose a weave with 8/2 cotton, which is the thread I have for the project. Double width cloth poses problems with accurate threading.
Help Please!
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August 7, 2018 at 2:45 pm #47190
Hi Carol, I just responded to your post in Ravelry a little while ago but I’ll post it here too.
After weaving the gamp per Jane’s guidelines (18 epi) I opened my sett to 15 epi to use a boucle yarn. While playing on the loom I decided to try 8/2 cotton again in the weft and beat at 15 ppi. The cloth came out very nice. It would be great for clothing (nice drape) but for this project it became a tea towel and it was perfectly fine. Finished width after washing was 19-1/2”.
I don’t know if this will help (not a very good one), but here’s a picture of the 15epi x 15ppi. I did an all red one this way too:0-
August 7, 2018 at 3:24 pm #47194
Kathy I was just on Ravelry looking at your projects; they were great! I do appreciate knowing just what 15 epi would be like to weave and wash. I was concerned it would be too loose, but it looks lovely in your photo! I’ll put some warp on both looms and see what happens. Thanks Again!
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August 8, 2018 at 4:33 am #47215
You’re very welcome!
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September 21, 2018 at 7:10 am #48455
How good to read this! I have a 24 inch loom and cannot open up this sample further dan 15 epi. Love your results!
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August 8, 2018 at 9:02 am #47228
Looks like I’m going to weave this one on my rigid heddle loom. I’ve discovered I can use my double heddle setup to achieve a higher thread count. SO. . . I can warp 18 epi with 2 of my 10 dent heddles. Found the answers in some older books I forgot I had. Will be a new adventure for me. But I’m pleased I’ll be able to see the individual gamp squares blooming before my eyes!
I also seem to be making a dog’s breakfast of the threading for double width weaving in my WeaveIt Pro, so I probably will not use my smaller 4 shaft table loom. Though I’ll keep trying! I’m a very ‘stick to it’ kinda gal.
A big Thank You to everyone who helped me, I really appreciate it!
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August 10, 2018 at 1:14 pm #47313
Good for you, Carol! I hope it all goes smoothly. Be sure to post pictures!
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August 8, 2018 at 5:27 pm #47242
A couple results from the colour and weave warp. One sample experimenting with designs and/or slub yarns and one woven with boucle at 12 epi.
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August 10, 2018 at 7:46 am #47302
Looks great !
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August 10, 2018 at 1:09 pm #47312
Thank you Ellen. I had fun playing and puzzling with this warp.
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August 10, 2018 at 1:16 pm #47315
Nice samples Barbara! I played with boucle in my samples too and loved it!
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August 10, 2018 at 5:59 pm #47340
Thank you Kathy. I opened the sett to 12 epi for the boucle and the drape would be lovely for a scarf or shawl or a very fast drying towel for summertime use when nothing actually seems to get dry.
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September 1, 2018 at 5:50 am #47894
I finished and love this warp!!
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September 2, 2018 at 5:31 am #47916
Looks great ! I loved weaving this one too and watching the magic happen.
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September 16, 2018 at 10:03 am #48310
Slow but sure is getting me there. I’ve had the thrill of taking this retreat at Jane’s but wanted to have the fun of exploring the samples further. I should have ironed these before I ran to grab a bit of sun before the rains (thankfully) came to the wet coast.
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September 19, 2018 at 10:14 am #48388
I really like how the yellow “pops” when it is used in a larger section than just the divider.
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October 6, 2018 at 6:49 am #48906
Color and weave gamp towels.
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October 6, 2018 at 8:42 am #48907
Beautiful, Jan and so well photographed!
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October 7, 2018 at 9:25 am #48945
Thanks everyone. I like them too. It was so interesting experimenting with the colors.
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February 26, 2019 at 1:50 pm #66868
I just finished with sample #1 and I’m ready to start this sample. But I don’t have a dozen cones in each color. Did everyone buy more yarn or is there another trick to this I’m not catching? Or did everyone warp one thread at a time?
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February 26, 2019 at 5:54 pm #66893
Don’t worry about it! I had three cones of both the white and blue plus one of apricot and I wound the warp with what I had. The whole idea is to work with what you have and enjoy it – even if it takes a bit more time to wind the warp 😉
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August 5, 2019 at 7:35 pm #84288
I’m about to create the warp for Sample #2, and I want to increase the width in the reed to somewhere close to 24” for larger tea towels. Can anyone recommend options? Either increase the width of each section, or repeat some of the sections? At 18 epi I would need 432 ends for 24”. Any suggestions are welcome 🙂 Thanks!
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December 9, 2019 at 3:06 pm #131238
My color and weave gamp plus tea towels from the same warp.
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December 9, 2019 at 3:36 pm #131285
Beautifully done, manuscripts1!
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March 7, 2020 at 10:04 am #158888
Thoughts about the Color and Weave gamp, sample 2: I was happy to find the threads did not twist very much, when weaving off.
I took a wrong track on the warping board while holding 5 ends, and didn’t notice until the last section was warped. I remembered a Charlotte story from an upcoming episode. So I carefully unwound onto another spool, found that the path in error was too long, so was able to fix it, then carefully rewarp the rest and didn’t have to waste much.
When I opened up to 12 epi, I wove with wool. Didn’t pay attention and tossed it in the washer with the rest of the project. Predictably, it went from a balanced weave at 29”, to 20”. So I cut armholes into it and made it into a vest/wrap for the toddler granddaughter.
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March 7, 2020 at 11:03 am #158895
So glad you found a way to utilize the piece Anne! I’m always thinking cushions when that happens to me but love your idea of a vest for a toddler 🙂
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April 15, 2020 at 6:41 pm #162396
This color and weave gamp made me so happy because it is the most complicated weaving I’ve done so far and it came out so pretty! I made this pillow and a set of four towels.
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April 16, 2020 at 2:04 pm #162469
Hi – I am wondering why my Gamp looks so different from Janes example. I really like hers, the patterns are clean and crisp, but mine seem a lot more messy. See below, I have overlayed my weaving on top of a screenshot of her Gamp weaving video. I hope I have made it easy to see. Any ideas? I am using 8/2 Brassard cotton and have followed the directions exactly, made no changes. 18ppi and 18epi.
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April 16, 2020 at 2:27 pm #162473
Elisa, a wee question to start with – have you washed your gamp yet? Things settle in once it’s washed. Let us know and we can take it from there.
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April 17, 2020 at 11:35 am #162569
Hi Sandra, that is a good idea. No I have not washed yet, but I am comparing to Jane’s unwashed example as well.
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April 16, 2020 at 5:32 pm #162492
Just to add to Sandra’s comment, I’m just focusing on a couple of the squares, your threading sequence, for DDDD/LLLL it looks like you threaded right to left LLLL/DDDD, the DDD/L is threaded L/DDD, the DD/LL is threaded LL/DD and such? If so, this will give it a different look to Jane’s. But it’s not wrong, just different, it’s kind of cool actually.
Your photo is super helpful and detailed to look at by the way, love how you did it 😉
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April 17, 2020 at 12:01 pm #162573
Hi Ginette – That was a super good idea. The threading you see at the top is Jane’s. Might her threading be reversed? It does actually look like it. My threading is the image at the bottom and if you compaire the DDDD,LLLL you can see hers starts with Light and mine starts with Dark. I checked mine to make sure, images of my threading are below.
I have moved on since and am weaving all white weft now, but just to show you this is the second threading of DD,LL. I think this is correct.
here is my DDDD,LLLL threading, this does look correct as well, Right?
Do you think I should try to reverse my threading?
THANK YOU!
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April 17, 2020 at 12:44 pm #162579
Hi Elysa,
The threading from the draft which is the same as Jane’s in the photo, would be threaded right to left so you would start threading with the LLLL from the DDDD/LLLL sequence. That said, I don’t think you should rethread right now, play with what you have. The only difference is that the edges of most of them are different from the draft, threads next to the dividers. If you look at the centre of some of the squares, they look the same. This sample gamp will be a great sample to look at in the future when you want to design a piece and choose one of the squares or a couple of them.
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April 17, 2020 at 1:22 pm #162583
OH MY GOODNESS!! I see what you mean and that makes sense now that you point it out. I was reading right to left (how we normally read). So this will be the same with warping too. Sheesh! DDDD/LLLL would be warped LLLL then DDDD. Ok. It is a bit of an Ah Ha moment. Now I really want to do it again and warp and thread the right way and see how that comes out! Thank you!
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April 16, 2020 at 8:51 pm #162506
Hi – I am wondering why my Gamp looks so different from Janes example. I really like hers, the patterns are clean and crisp, but mine seem a lot more messy. See below, I have overlayed my weaving on top of a screenshot of her Gamp weaving video. I hope I have made it easy to see. Any ideas? I am using 8/2 Brassard cotton and have followed the directions exactly, made no changes. 18ppi and 18epi.
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April 16, 2020 at 9:57 pm #162510
Elysa, if you scroll up above this post, Ginette and I have already tried to answer your question which included your photos. Maybe you are looking for answers from other Guild members, if so – hopefully they will chip in.
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April 17, 2020 at 11:33 am #162568
Sorry, I guess my comments posted twice.
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July 20, 2020 at 4:31 pm #173696
Finished sample 2 and loved how it came out.
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July 20, 2020 at 4:33 pm #173697
👏👏👏 Way to go, Gary. It looks like you had fun!
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August 1, 2020 at 1:42 pm #174703
Little Hank Williams says I’ve been spending too much time on these samples and not enough time petting her. Sorry Hanky, I’m having too much fun!
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August 14, 2020 at 8:30 pm #175669
My daughter loved one of the squares in my Colour and Weave gamp (DDDD/LLLL on DD/LLL) so I designed this scarf around it (using Fibonacci, of course.) She helped choose the colors from my JST sample cards. Jagger Spun superfine merino 18/2 in Navy, Chamois and Pumpkin. It was my first time weaving with wool and I was a bit nervous to wet-finish it but it came out well, I think.
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August 15, 2020 at 10:51 am #175709
Beautiful scarf Sue!! 🙂
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December 19, 2020 at 12:27 am #188502
Ok, I finally got started and done! 1st weaving project and Jane’s instructions were invaluable. I couldn’t leave well enough alone and decided to put in an extra threading; DD/L/D/LL. I really had fun, especially when it came time to play and come up with my own weft threading patterns, there are some cool patterns that I can’t wait to try out.
At the end (after two towels), I had a bit of Warp left so decided to try some clasped weft and also some Christmasy colored weft in the original TAW pattern. The cranberry and pine colors were 8/4 cotton.
Thanks, Jane! I learned so much! I can’t wait to try everything else. And one last thing, you have incited lust in me… I now want a Louët Spring II… someday.1-
December 19, 2020 at 12:30 am #188515
Isn’t Colour and Weave addictive, Bradley! So glad you are having fun “playing” and … 👏👏👏
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December 19, 2020 at 12:31 am #188498
Ok, I finally got started and done! 1st weaving project and Jane’s instructions were invaluable. I couldn’t leave well enough alone and decided to put in an extra threading; DD/L/D/LL. I really had fun, especially when it came time to play and come up with my own weft threading patterns, there are some cool patterns that I can’t wait to try out.
At the end (after two towels), I had a bit of Warp left so decided to try some clasped weft and also some Christmasy colored weft in the original TAW pattern. The cranberry and pine colors were 8/4 cotton.
Thanks, Jane! I learned so much! I can’t wait to try everything else. And one last thing, you have incited lust in me… I now want a Louët Spring II… someday.
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March 10, 2018 at 8:11 am #41578
My gosh, bought the navy in one big cone of 6500 meter….oink! I do have three cones of another blue, considered which one to use.:-), it will be the not so easy way, see picture, with thanks to ikea paperrollholder.
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March 14, 2018 at 8:30 am #41775
About to warp the colour gamp sample and have a question.
where it is dddd llll jane says to wind with 2 threads in the hand, does that mean one of each colour? Paticia
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March 14, 2018 at 11:51 am #41784
This is what Jane wrote responding to a question about DDDD/LLLL in the comments section under the video:
“What you do want is 4 dark/ 4 light threaded in the heddles. There are 3 ways this can be achieved. Lets look at the options.
1. You could hold one end in your hand and wind on 4 dark, then break it and tie on the light and warp 4 more threads and go through that all the way across the section. It will take the longest time.
2. You could hold 2 dark in your hand and go up and down and you would have 4 dark, then break it and tie on the 2 light and go up and down. It would be faster than #1 but would still be a lot of starting and stopping, breaking and tying.
As I said in the video that is how I did it forever before Charlotte figured out an easier way. The pattern was written before we filmed this part.
#3 is what I describe in the video. This is the fastest and easiest way to do it..GO back and watch it again and I’m sure it will make sense.
One last thing that maybe you don’t understand….
If you don’t put the first two on by themselves you won’t have 4 of one colour. If you just start with 2 light and 2 dark in your hand, you won’t have 4 of one colour for your first stripe.
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March 14, 2018 at 1:10 pm #41788
Happy to see I’m not the only one feeling challenged with handling more than one thread/color for the gamp on the warping board! Also happy no one can see me bumbling through this process! Hah! Love the challenge…
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March 14, 2018 at 3:59 pm #41797
Help needed please:
I began preparing my warp for episode 4, and suddenly had a thought: if, for example in the first section, the directions say to warp 48 ends D/L, does this mean wrap both of those 2 colours together 48 times around my warping mill (equaling 96 ends), or does it mean warp the 2 together 24 times, which would equal 48 ends???? I think the second but need reassurance before I continue.
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March 14, 2018 at 4:11 pm #41799
Hi Judy, Jane lays it all out for us on the draft download with the Colour and Gamp sample Episode. If you look at the front page you’ll see that the total number of threads needed for the warp is 348 and page 2 shows us how many threads are in each section. So – you can see there that the total number of threads is 48 in the first section, 1 each D/L wound 24 times and then 4 ends of apricot. Relax, follow Jane’s directions and you will have a happy warp!
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